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家园 兄台高论,在下对这次收购的前景极不看好
家园 昏招也不昏

中国许多企业的高管不是为干实业,纯粹为了抓钱。其实近年来,中国许多公司高管向国外企业学的最快的不是技术和管理,是资本运作。 说得不好听的是洗钱。柳传之,杨永庆会看不到我们所能看到的风险?一大帮咨询,投资公司会看不到风险?所以说他们这么做不是昏招,是有道理的。至于企业,只要死不了就行了。

老公司的钱和股份是不能随便揣进口袋的,所以要买个新公司去分钱。以后还好到美国融资。又被国人认为是代表中国成功企业的典范,并染上爱国主义色彩,名利双收。象联想这样的公司在自由竞争的资本社会里,要么公司早就垮了,要么CEO炒了。什么项目都是拍脑袋上的,拍脑袋结束。他们根本无视其他股东的利益。唉,不要到最后,又怪高盛借他钱,说人家设好圈套,布好陷阱。象中航油一样。极力淡化自己过错。

看来看去联想只是一个刘阿斗,哪有这么走向海外的?象华为最近接下欧洲3G的建设订单,这才是真正走向海外,但人家很低调。我们的传媒总是说联想收购IBM,带有吞并色彩。其实是IBM卖了好几年的包袱终于卖掉了。我们都知道美国的商店里是不买IBM,IBM主要的客户是政府,大企业,他们会用LENOVO牌的PC吗?不可能。所以说IBM这招棋相当好,许多人认为IBM退出PC了,其实不尽然,需要时,IBM可以找任何厂商代工,只不过前几年这个代工者是联想而已。所以IBM是不会丢失客户的,联想什么也抢不到。更可怕的是传说IBM准备并购APPLE,我很看好这样的合并,因为APPLE使用IBM的POWER芯片。使用自己的OS。这样IBM丢掉了原来使用WIN-INTEL系统PC的包袱,换上使用自己CPU的PC可以重新和WIN-INTEL 大干一场。IBM对原来操作系统上输给微软一直耿耿于怀。如果这样,联想真的是买了一个空壳了。有人说THINKPAD是个好品牌。但是这种子品牌离开了母体,什么也不是。

因此最可恨的就是这些联想高管,他们是心知肚明的,但为个人利益,不顾一切上了。如果他们想要企业好,就不会当初把神州数码分出去了,而是学IBM搞好自己的软件,集成和服务。现在的神州数码只是个炒货公司。如果他们想跨出海外,就应立足亚非拉,根本不用急于考虑美国市场。

家园 中航油的确是前车之鉴. 联想还难说, 这招棋险!
家园 行业知识一窍不通,就等学习兄弟的大作了.
家园 我们祝福联想吧.
家园 【拍马屁】经济版在四月一日兄的领导下,真是筑巢引凤了!
家园 说的对,个人的好处大大的。

在这笔交易里面,如果想捞的话,个人方面的确可以捞到很多油水。

家园 分析得好。不说金钱的报酬,虚荣心上的满足已经够了

无论日后联想还在不在,管理层可是实实在在地成为进入世界500强企业的中国第一,这个“荣耀”可是要进入历史的。

不过股市就用钱投票,联想收购以来股票已经下降近15%。

家园 【文摘】N.Y.Times: I.B.M. Sought a China Partnership

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Samuel J. Palmisano, above, pursued a sort of personal diplomacy with Chinese officials on I.B.M.'s behalf. Below, Stephen M. Ward Jr., an I.B.M. executive who will lead the Lenovo PC business, with Fran O'Sullivan, general manager of I.B.M.'s personal systems group.

December 13, 2004

I.B.M. Sought a China Partnership, Not Just a Sale

By STEVE LOHR

In July 2003, Samuel J. Palmisano, the chief executive of I.B.M., traveled to Beijing to explore the sale of the company's personal computer business. But he did not start by making the usual visit with executives of I.B.M.'s preferred partner, Lenovo, China's largest personal computer maker.

Instead, Mr. Palmisano first engaged in a bit of old-fashioned courtship. Before formally approaching Lenovo, he sought permission from the parents, by meeting privately with a senior Chinese government official in charge of economic and technology policy.

I.B.M. was not merely looking to sell its PC business, Mr. Palmisano told the official, but had bigger aspirations of creating a global enterprise, with I.B.M. contributing technology, management, marketing and distribution.

The idea, Mr. Palmisano explained, would be to build a modern and truly international Chinese-owned corporation. The move, he added, would demonstrate China's desire to take that next step toward economic maturity by investing abroad instead of merely serving as a manufacturing hub for the rest of the world.

The senior Chinese government official, Mr. Palmisano recalled, responded, "That is the future model for where we see China headed."

Permission was granted.

Inside I.B.M., the issue of whether to stay in the personal computer business has been debated for a decade. But the road to the Lenovo deal, according to I.B.M. executives, began in 2000, shortly after Mr. Palmisano became the company's president and chief operating officer. He ordered an extensive review of the PC business and decided to stop selling I.B.M. PC's through retail stores.

At about that time, I.B.M. approached Lenovo for the first time, according to a person close to Lenovo, seeking to sell its PC business for $3 billion to $4 billion. At the time, I.B.M. had let its investment bankers know that if an attractive offer came up for the PC business, it would certainly consider a sale. But I.B.M. executives say that any discussion in 2000 was probably a prospecting overture by an outside adviser representing the company.

In May 2002, Mr. Palmisano directed John Joyce, then I.B.M.'s chief financial officer, to meet with Lenovo's senior management to sound out the company's interest in establishing a business relationship. Lenovo, according to I.B.M. executives, was intrigued and had long been exploring ways to increase its international presence.

More than a year later, at the meeting in Beijing, the government official told Mr. Palmisano that a few years earlier the Chinese authorities would have been involved in such talks. But times had changed, the official said, and Lenovo and I.B.M. could negotiate by themselves.

By October 2003, I.B.M. resumed discussions with Lenovo. In March 2004, Mr. Palmisano went to Beijing to meet with Lenovo's founder, Liu Chuanzhi, as well as its president, Yang Yuanqing, and the chief financial officer, Mary Ma. That was when Mr. Palmisano fully described what he had in mind. "I put it all on the table," he said.

Lenovo was definitely interested, though any such deal would be complicated. Many of the essential elements of the deal were hammered out over eight days in June, in a hotel near Raleigh, N.C., where I.B.M.'s PC business is based. The principal negotiators included Mr. Joyce, who now heads I.B.M.'s services business, Stephen M. Ward Jr., an I.B.M. executive who will become chief executive of the Lenovo PC business, and Mr. Yang.

There were other interested bidders, including one from an American buyout firm whose offer remained on the table until the end. And the Lenovo deal could have fallen apart. But apparently the Chinese option was the only one seriously pursued by I.B.M.

"There were simpler transactions we could have done," Mr. Palmisano said, adding, "What we wanted was not a divestiture, but this strategic relationship with Lenovo and China."

The sale of I.B.M.'s personal computer business to Lenovo for $1.75 billion, announced last Tuesday, is "a three-dimensional deal," according to Mr. Palmisano. The sale provides I.B.M. with a path to leave a business that is large but not profitable. It is also the latest step in I.B.M.'s shift toward services, software and specialized hardware technology from mainframes to microprocessors for computer game consoles, all of which promise higher profits than the fiercely competitive PC business.

Yet the most intriguing, and potentially most important, dimension of the deal for the company is that it is I.B.M.'s China card. The new Lenovo, folding in the I.B.M. personal computer business, will be China's fifth-largest company, with $12.5 billion in sales in 2003, and the Chinese government will remain a big shareholder. I.B.M. is eager to help China with its industrial policy of moving up the economic ladder, by building the high-technology engine rooms to power modern corporations and government institutions with I.B.M. services and software.

The deal is not expected to face any regulatory hurdles. Although there is a requirement, dating back to the era of the cold war, for review of possible national security implications, officials in Washington told I.B.M. executives in advance of the announcement that clearing it would not be a problem.

The pact could give I.B.M. "an extremely important leg up in China," Laura Conigliaro, an analyst with Goldman, Sachs, whose investment banking arm advised Lenovo, wrote in a report last week. "Ultimately, this is the single most valuable benefit to I.B.M. from this transaction."

The payoff for I.B.M., if any, will come gradually. The Lenovo deal, in which I.B.M. will take an 18.9 percent stake in the Chinese company, is a sign of I.B.M.'s commitment to China. I.B.M. is placing 10,000 of its employees, its brand for five years and some its prestige in Lenovo's hands. There is a lot more at stake than the $1.25 billion in cash and stock Lenovo is paying, and $500 million in debt obligations it will assume.

In China, I.B.M. is using a variation of the globalization formula that has worked well for it in Japan, Europe and elsewhere. I.B.M. patiently nurtures close ties with the government and becomes a premier employer and a stellar corporate citizen - so much so that it is eventually regarded more like a local company than an outsider.

"We don't have any special deal with the Chinese government or any other government really," Mr. Palmisano explained last week over lunch at I.B.M. headquarters. "It's a much more subtle, more sophisticated approach. It is that if you become ingrained in their agenda and become truly local and help them advance, then your opportunities are enlarged.

"You become part of their strategy," he added.

I.B.M. is no newcomer to China. It set up a business there 20 years ago, and there are now 4,200 I.B.M. employees in China. In 1995, the company opened a research laboratory, which now employs 150 Chinese scientists. Five years ago, I.B.M. established a Chinese software development lab, which today has 500 engineers working on Linux projects alone. (I.B.M. is the leading corporate supporter of Linux, a free operating system that is an alternative to Microsoft Windows.)

With the Lenovo deal, I.B.M. is forging even closer links with China. While there were other offers for its PC business, Mr. Palmisano pushed hard for this deal - more a bridge to another economy than a simple sell-off.

Mr. Palmisano, 53, who became chief executive in 2002, is the leader of a generation of executives groomed to run a corporation that is based in the United States but gets the majority of its revenue abroad, as I.B.M. does today. Traveling extensively is part of the regimen, as are stints of living abroad.

Mr. Palmisano managed I.B.M.'s large business in Japan in the early 1990's. He traveled extensively in Asia, including China, and continues to do so as chief executive. He makes three or four trips a year to China on business, and last summer he spent two weeks traveling across the country with his four children. "It was so they could get a feel for the Chinese culture and what's going on there," he said. "China is going to be such a huge influence in the world in their lives."

I.B.M.'s departure from the personal computer industry, Mr. Palmisano insisted, does not mean that the PC business is a bad one. But it does signal that it is no longer crucial to I.B.M.'s strategy of emphasizing services, software and server computers for corporate customers.

In an e-mail message to employees last week, Mr. Palmisano explained how the company's strategy and the PC business had parted ways. Today, there are two ways to create long-term value for information technology customers and shareholders, he wrote: "Invest heavily in R.& D. and be the high-value innovation provider for enterprises, or differentiate by leveraging vast economies of scale, high volumes and price."

I.B.M. is choosing the first path, and has decided that the PC business is inevitably on the second path.

David Barboza contributed reporting from Beijing for this article.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

家园 很有道理

补充一点吧。

对于这次联想的收购案,给联想做投行和咨询的同志们不是看不到风险,而且有切身利益在里面。投行就不用说了,收购做成了才有佣金拿,联想要是醒悟之后不玩了,大家不都得喝西北风?至于咨询师们,您想,联想收购了IBM PC以后,第一件事是做什么?当然是找“拥有最先进管理知识”的咨询公司啦。咨询公司们不鼓励就算是有良心的了,更不用说劝阻了。

家园 不知这笔交易有没有插个顾问公司在里头...

标准的回扣模式.

家园 联想股价在短中期是很难看好的

看看这个月会不会有啥说明会或是重大政策宣布

家园 不知联想在急什么,似乎没人竞价不是吗?
家园 数泥兄有空多来谈谈

花是不会少的

家园 我也不看好联想的未来,不过看好华人的未来.

即使联想垮了,华人也能从中得到不少的经验和教训.

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