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          • 家园 凭什么要倾斜?现在的院士、教授有几位是劳动大学毕业的?
            • 家园 院士基本上是60岁以上论资排辈。教授这个商品几块钱一斤?
              • 家园 谁说院士是论资排辈的

                我就知道有一位明星院士不是。卢柯院士上院士的时候大概40多岁,请问这论的啥资排的啥辈分?可以说90%的科学院院士都是有两把刷子的。

                • 家园 卢柯上是因为他老板师昌绪吧

                  他老板要不是师昌绪,就根本没戏

                  • 家园 师昌绪院士手下的学生和下属没有100也有50吧

                    卢柯手上有好几篇nature,science。这样的人能上位,靠的不一定只是他的老板,他自己能力很强的。不能说别人就是论资排辈。

                    • 家园 什么不一定,没有师昌绪,他就是上不了的

                      师昌绪有很多学生是不错,但是学生留在沈阳金属所的能推出来的就卢了。

                      他上院士跟发文章没关系,就是师昌绪推上的。国内发S/N的人多了,也没见上院士。

                      师昌绪在院士中很油的,很会拉关系的,特别在金属物理和材料那一块。

                      • 家园 哎,不要一切都往阴谋上扯嘛

                        卢柯近几年基本上每年一个百优论文学生,一篇S/N,你非要说他的学术能力不足够,不足以当院士,这也太说不过去了吧。

                        • 家园 跟阴谋有啥关系?实话实说

                          查了下,卢是03年上的,跟近年的东东没关系。

                          • 家园 估计你是认识他们的人。

                            一些私底下的东西你知道的肯定比我多很多。我不认识师和卢这两位中的任何一个,相信这两个牛人也不可能认识我。可能我不应该用阴谋这个词,应该说卢上院士这不是完全是师凭自己的江湖地位硬弄上去的。

                            我现在只说我在sci上搜到的卢在87-91年的sci文章,毕竟上院士文章还是很重要的。如下是卢在1987-1991年之间所有sci收录论文的详细情况,你要有兴趣也可以到web of knowledge上搜索一下。虽说没有S/N的文章,但是在金属类的一级刊物上还是不少的,有好几篇文章现在的引用次数也是好几百次了。这说明他在上院士之前已经表现出很强的学术能力了。上院士也是正常不过的事情了。他上了以后的表现也让人无可挑剔,这说明当年他上了院士是一个好事啊。不能说他的老板是师他就一定能上,按照这个理论,师得老板又该是谁比较好呢?

                            309. Title: GRAIN-GROWTH PROCESSES IN NANOCRYSTALLINE MATERIALS STUDIED BY DIFFERENTIAL SCANNING CALORIMETRY

                            Author(s): LU, K

                            Source: SCRIPTA METALLURGICA ET MATERIALIA Volume: 25 Issue: 9 Pages: 2047-2052 Published: SEP 1991

                            Times Cited: 31

                            310. Title: POSITRON-LIFETIME STUDY OF POLYCRYSTALLINE NI-P ALLOYS WITH ULTRAFINE GRAINS

                            Author(s): SUI, ML; LU, K; DENG, W, et al.

                            Source: PHYSICAL REVIEW B Volume: 44 Issue: 12 Pages: 6466-6471 Published: 1991

                            Times Cited: 42

                            Title: A MICROMECHANISM FOR CRYSTALLIZATION OF AMORPHOUS-ALLOYS .2. BULK CRYSTALLIZATION PROCESS

                            Author(s): LU, K; SUI, ML; WANG, JT

                            Source: JOURNAL OF CRYSTAL GROWTH Volume: 113 Issue: 1-2 Pages: 242-250 Published: AUG 1991

                            Times Cited: 16

                            312. Title: A MICROMECHANISM FOR CRYSTALLIZATION OF AMORPHOUS-ALLOYS .1. AN INSITU TEM OBSERVATION

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT

                            Source: JOURNAL OF CRYSTAL GROWTH Volume: 112 Issue: 2-3 Pages: 525-530 Published: JUN 1991

                            Times Cited: 26

                            313. Title: GRAIN-GROWTH KINETICS AND INTERFACIAL ENERGIES IN NANOCRYSTALLINE NI-P ALLOYS

                            Author(s): LU, K; WEI, WD; WANG, JT

                            Source: JOURNAL OF APPLIED PHYSICS Volume: 69 Issue: 10 Pages: 7345-7347 Published: MAY 15 1991

                            Times Cited: 43

                            314. Title: A STRUCTURAL INVESTIGATION OF THE CRYSTALLIZATION PRODUCTS OF AN AMORPHOUS NI-P ALLOY

                            Author(s): SUI, ML; LU, K; HE, YZ

                            Source: PHILOSOPHICAL MAGAZINE B-PHYSICS OF CONDENSED MATTER STATISTICAL MECHANICS ELECTRONIC OPTICAL AND MAGNETIC PROPERTIES Volume: 63 Issue: 4 Pages: 993-1008 Published: APR 1991

                            Times Cited: 19

                            315. Title: INVESTIGATION OF THE INTERFACIAL DEFECTS IN A NANOCRYSTALLINE NI-P ALLOY BY POSITRON-ANNIHILATION SPECTROSCOPY

                            Author(s): SUI, ML; XIONG, LY; DENG, W, et al.

                            Source: JOURNAL OF APPLIED PHYSICS Volume: 69 Issue: 8 Pages: 4451-4453 Part: 1 Published: APR 15 1991

                            Times Cited: 19

                            316. Title: THERMAL-EXPANSION AND SPECIFIC-HEAT CAPACITY OF NANOCRYSTALLINE NI-P ALLOY

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT; WEI, WD

                            Source: SCRIPTA METALLURGICA ET MATERIALIA Volume: 25 Issue: 3 Pages: 619-623 Published: MAR 1991

                            Times Cited: 24

                            317. Title: THE CATALYTIC PROPERTIES OF FE78SI12B10 ALLOYS PREPARED BY BALL MILLING

                            Author(s): CHUI, ZJ; WANG, L; WANG, KY, et al.

                            Conference Information: 7TH INTERNATIONAL CONF ON RAPIDLY QUENCHED MATERIALS, Date: AUG 13-17, 1990 STOCKHOLM SWEDEN

                            Source: MATERIALS SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING A-STRUCTURAL MATERIALS PROPERTIES MICROSTRUCTURE AND PROCESSING Volume: 134 Pages: 1037-1040 Published: 1991

                            Times Cited: 2

                            318. Title: ACTIVATION-ENERGIES FOR CRYSTAL NUCLEATION AND GROWTH IN AMORPHOUS-ALLOYS

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT

                            Conference Information: 7TH INTERNATIONAL CONF ON RAPIDLY QUENCHED MATERIALS, Date: AUG 13-17, 1990 STOCKHOLM SWEDEN

                            Source: MATERIALS SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING A-STRUCTURAL MATERIALS PROPERTIES MICROSTRUCTURE AND PROCESSING Volume: 133 Pages: 500-503 Published: 1991

                            Times Cited: 34

                            319. Title: A NEW CRYSTALLIZATION MICROMECHANISM FOR AMORPHOUS-ALLOYS

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT

                            Conference Information: 7TH INTERNATIONAL CONF ON RAPIDLY QUENCHED MATERIALS, Date: AUG 13-17, 1990 STOCKHOLM SWEDEN

                            Source: MATERIALS SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING A-STRUCTURAL MATERIALS PROPERTIES MICROSTRUCTURE AND PROCESSING Volume: 133 Pages: 504-508 Published: 1991

                            Times Cited: 10

                            320. Title: A NEW METHOD FOR SYNTHESIZING NANOCRYSTALLINE ALLOYS

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT; WEI, WD

                            Source: JOURNAL OF APPLIED PHYSICS Volume: 69 Issue: 1 Pages: 522-524 Published: JAN 1 1991

                            Times Cited: 138

                            321. Title: MICROHARDNESS AND FRACTURE PROPERTIES OF NANOCRYSTALLINE NI-P ALLOY

                            Author(s): LU, K; WEI, WD; WANG, JT

                            Source: SCRIPTA METALLURGICA ET MATERIALIA Volume: 24 Issue: 12 Pages: 2319-2323 Published: DEC 1990

                            Times Cited: 200

                            322. Title: EUTECTIC CRYSTALLIZATION PRODUCTS AND THEIR ORIENTATION RELATIONSHIP IN AMORPHOUS TM-M ALLOYS

                            Author(s): LU, K; SUI, ML; WANG, JT

                            Source: JOURNAL OF MATERIALS SCIENCE LETTERS Volume: 9 Issue: 6 Pages: 630-632 Published: JUN 1990

                            Times Cited: 3

                            323. Title: VARIATION OF AVRAMI EXPONENT FOR CRYSTALLIZATION OF MELT-SPUN AMORPHOUS RIBBONS

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT

                            Conference Information: 7TH INTERNATIONAL CONF ON LIQUID AND AMORPHOUS METALS, Date: SEP 04-08, 1989 KYOTO JAPAN

                            Source: JOURNAL OF NON-CRYSTALLINE SOLIDS Volume: 117 Pages: 716-720 Published: 1990

                            Times Cited: 22

                            324. Title: CRYSTAL-GROWTH DURING CRYSTALLIZATION OF AMORPHOUS-ALLOYS

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT

                            Source: JOURNAL OF CRYSTAL GROWTH Volume: 94 Issue: 2 Pages: 448-454 Published: FEB 1989

                            Times Cited: 25

                            325. Title: CRYSTALLIZATION KINETICS OF NI-P GLASS - ACTIVATION-ENERGIES FOR NUCLEATION AND GROWTH OF NUCLEI

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT

                            Source: JOURNAL OF MATERIALS SCIENCE Volume: 23 Issue: 8 Pages: 3001-3005 Published: AUG 1988

                            Times Cited: 23

                            326. Title: RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CRYSTALLIZATION TEMPERATURE AND PRE-EXISTING NUCLEI IN AMORPHOUS NI-P ALLOYS

                            Author(s): LU, K; WANG, JT

                            Source: MATERIALS SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING Volume: 97 Pages: 399-402 Published: JAN 1988

                            Times Cited: 15

                            327. Title: STRUCTURE AND CRYSTALLIZATION OF AL86MN14 QUASI-CRYSTALS INVESTIGATED BY DIFFERENTIAL SCANNING CALORIMETRY

                            Author(s): LU, K; HU, TB; WANG, JT

                            Source: SCRIPTA METALLURGICA Volume: 21 Issue: 6 Pages: 793-796 Published: JUN 1987

                            • 家园 不认识他们

                              跟他们八杆子都打不着。这些journal也就soso吧,估计在国内大家觉得还行。

                              • 家园 journal不是关键,关键是引用次数

                                说句实话,米帝的做金属的大牌教授们又有几个能做到单篇文章引用次数上200呢。卢的学术能力还是很强的。

              • 家园 看来你的教育标准就是这个,那还有什么好说的?

                鸡同鸭讲。

                • 家园 我刚好google了2007,2009年的科学院新增院士

                  里面有很多50多岁,40多岁也颇有一些了。60岁以上论资排辈不是没有。但是60以上比例在1/3以下。

                  2009

                  外链出处

                  2007

                  外链出处

                  工程院士没有查,但是应该相差不会太多。

                  科学院院士里面有工农兵学员出身,比如侯凡凡,但是人家好歹是90年代读过博士,去过哈佛的人。

        • 本帖(曾)被判违规,无申诉/道歉帖,未达标。

          家园 这就是著名的流行于脑残圈里的智力抢答题

          第一,美国有几个哈佛?凭什么拿劳动大学跟哈佛比?第二,劳动大学只要有合适的条件,可不可以产生出哈佛这种影响的名校?

          第三,你是不是特别喜欢玩智力抢答,跟范伟一样。

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