主题：纽约伊斯兰中心的故事 -- 红绿
家园 就是在斋月抓穆斯林小偷，都是对宗教的冒犯！
家园 真的？坐等看狗咬狗 家园 美国一教堂牧师打算在911当天烧一部《可兰经》纪念 http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/09/07/florida.quran.burning/#fbid=9-wyiQ2uDRZ&wom=false
阿富汗美军首领说：这样会把我的部队陷于更加糟糕的境地。
(CNN) -- The pastor of a Florida church planning to burn Qurans told CNN Tuesday while the congregation plans to go through with the action to protest the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States by al Qaeda, the church is "weighing" its intentions.
"We have firmly made up our mind, but at the same time, we are definitelypraying about it," said Jones said.
"We are definitely weighing the situation. We are weighing the thing that we're about to do. What it possibly could cause. What is our actual message. What are we trying to get across."
家园 小青年是最容易被煽动的，也是国家的未来 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/01/nyregion/01mosque.html?scp=2&sq=ground%20zero%20mosque&st=cse
这样的热血青年，简直等不及要投入战场，和伊斯兰‘邪教’分子作战。
家园 伊斯兰已经侵入到欧美内部。 特别是欧洲，问题越来越大。法国有超过10％的穆斯林，而在巴黎，这个比例达到了1/4。想象一下，假如北京、或者上海有 500多万穆斯林，情况会怎么样呢？
下面是个youtube的视频，内容可能有点夸张，但这是欧洲的未来：
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
家园 欧美的福利体系是这种趋势的很大助力 加拿大为例，对中低收入家庭，每多生一个孩子每个月多200多加元的牛奶金，早饭中饭都可以到校长那去要。
他们生的孩子等于是别人在替他们养着。
养活一个孩子的成本真的不高，高的是投入在教育上的成本。而孩子同学中的例子，就是典型的穆斯林家庭养而不教。
家园 Glenn Beck 828林肯纪念堂的集会有意思 1963年8月28日，Martin Luther King在林肯纪念堂发表了著名的《I have a dream》演讲。而47年后的同一天，Glenn Beck召集了一个名为“Restore Honor”的集会。主要是一些演讲，一个重头戏是honor为国牺牲的士兵。集会当天，他就为殉职美军家属募集了550万美元的手机捐款。
Conservative的一方（比如Foxnews的几个主播）非常赞赏Glenn Beck的做法。但liberal那儿对他意见很大，有些简直是谩骂，什么词都用上了。比如NY times的专栏文章：America Is Better Than Thi
America is better than Glenn Beck. For all of his celebrity, Mr. Beck is an ignorant, divisive, pathetic figure. On the anniversary of the great 1963 March on Washington he will stand in the shadows of giants — Abraham Lincoln and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Who do you think is more representative of this nation?Beck是一个无知的、分裂的、可怜的人。他站在两个巨人的阴影之下。
This is the historical legacy that Glenn Beck, a small man with a mean message, has chosen to tread upon with his cynical rally on Saturday at that very same Lincoln Memorial.Beck是个邪恶的小人（Small man with a mean message）。
Beck is a provocateur who likes to play with matches in the tinderbox of racial and ethnic confrontation. He seems oblivious to the real danger of his execrable behavior. He famously described President Obama as a man “who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.”Beck是个挑衅者，他喜欢玩弄种族冲突。
这几年看过来，美国国内的自由派和保守派的冲突越来越大，最近事情很多，矛盾非常大，火气都很旺，真不知道未来会弄成什么样子。
注：Glenn Beck被认为是茶叶党的精神领袖、Godfather。
家园 阿拉伯人对清真寺事件的看法 [URL=http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/08/25/us_anti_islam_movement_angering_mainstream_arabs_not_extremists] How Arabs view the anti-mosque movement
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Meanwhile, several recent articles claim that the mosque had become the #1 topic of discussion on jihadist forums.清真寺问题已经成为“圣战攻击(jihad)”论坛的 No.1话题。
Jamil al-Nimri, a Jordanian liberal writing for al-Ghad, who writes that the backlash against the mosque has unleashed a wave of bigotry and hate, at the expense of the intended message of an enlightened and tolerant Islam.Jamil al-Nimri是为约旦al-Ghad(应该是一个报纸或网站)写作的自由主义者。他指出美国国内反对建清真寺会掀起一轮固执和仇恨。
Mohammed al-Hammadi, an Emirati writer for al-Ittihad, who describes the mosque as a moment for America to choose whether it truly believes in freedom.Abd al-Haq Azouzi, a Moroccan writing for al-Ittihad, who reverses the familiar question to ask "why do they hate us?," and warns that those cynically manufacturing the issue for political benefit are unleashing an uncontrollable wave of hatred.
Abdullah al-Shayji, a Kuwaiti writing for al-Ittihad, who sees the mosque battle as a fundamental test of the place of Muslims in America and fears rising Islamophobia.
Ragheda Dergham, writing in al-Hayat, warns that the campaign against the mosque threatens Islamic moderation.
Manar al-Shourbji, in Egypt's al-Masry al-Youm, reflects that the campaign against the mosque demonstrates that the good intentions of the mosque's founders were not enough in the face of rising anti-Islam extremism in America.
