主题：六扇门那些事儿第三部 53 兼职。 -- 史老柒
家园 关于这个问题，老铁的回答可能比较权威 1. 方在美国的生活来源。他在美国从1995年博士毕业后好像一直没有稳定的职业；1994年他就创办《新语丝》， 而这些都是要钱和时间的， 方既不是有闲， 又没有钱，这么搞这么多东西？请问西西河的创建人老铁也在美国，也要投时间投钱，他为什么创办这么个东西？不但要吃苦受累还要挨骂？
方曾经做过两段博士后，不算没有稳定的职业吧。
家园 博士后算稳定职业吗 家园 那要看混得好不好了
家园 1 抓不到硬伤又死要批就要往屁股问题靠。一地图炮能MAP到无数人也不管了。网上自己贴时间精力金钱搞同好网站的人多了去，不知道是看不见还是想不到了。
家园 西西河上市的话价格在1亿人民币以上 老铁的心血绝对没有白费， 无论用金钱还是社会影响。但老铁淡泊名利， 到现在为止没有几个人真的见到过老铁。
那么同样的情况来看新语丝，他的市场价值远不如西西河。而方热衷追逐名利， 令人十分不解。
家园 我怎么觉得，这二位都是为了理想，而不是为了金钱衡量？ 再者说，你的一亿也好，新语丝远不及西西河也好，有什么样的证据证明呢？
家园 实话实说 我是先知道新语丝后知道西西河的。知道西西河还是因为看了老萨的新浪博客才知道的。
家园 大家都是凭感觉吗？ 你在google搜一个热门词，钓鱼岛还是高铁，看看是新语丝排在前面还是西西河排在前面。如果你要硬拗新语丝更有影响力，那我也无话可说。
方是为了理想的话， 就会有错就该，至少不要打假抄袭结果自己出书也抄袭， 至少尊重中国的法律。但看得出， 他不是， 至少我看不出他是。
家园 继续抬杠 要是你搜另外一些个热门词汇，比如学位作假，打假等，又是哪个排在前面呢？
另外，一个亿的论证怎么来啊？
- 复 继续抬杠
家园 先比较一下Alexa的排名吧 ccthere.com的排名42365, xys.org的Alexa排名106819，临时域名talkcc.com的排名是562806，不过国内排名是13608， 远好于新语丝的4万多名。
一个国内网站给出的talkcc.com一天的访问IP是4800, 假定ccthere.com是她的3倍，就是西西河每天访客高达2万独立IP，大约20万pageview。Google的关键词click每次要收3~5块钱人民币（3年前的价格， 现在行情不知道）， 一些美容减肥广告要收20元。一个经营的好的网站每年广告营收应该在2000万以上，净利润1千万， 按照10倍PE计算，西西河的商业价值当然超过1亿元人民币。
家园 same to many anti-GMOs 你自己不清楚的和揽不过来就不要掺和Sorry can't type Chinese now.
One thing I probably know:
玉米的美国产量一直接近3亿吨每年，按照美国农业部的说法， 是每人消费25.5磅， 约合11kg, 因为其中包括了鲜玉米，折合干玉米大概8kg，美国全年消费玉米大概在24亿公斤，0.024亿吨， 不到美国年产的1%。 我想知道的是，他们吃的是什么玉米？美国美国现在还有14%的非转基因玉米种植， 转基因这么好， 美国政府如此支持，他们为什么不改？Corn syrup is used in many, many, many processed food products. And that is the major way for Americans to consume GM corns as direct food - if not counting the meat products coming from livestocks feeding on GM corns.
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外链图片需谨慎，可能会被源头改In 2007 we(US) produced 13 million bushels of corn, exported 2.45 million and consumed 10.5 million. That works out to over 5 lbs of consumption per person per day!1 bushel of shelled maize (corn) at 15.5% moisture by weight: 56 lb[2] = 25.4012 kg
US exported 20% of the annual product of corn, and consumed the rest 80%.
28.6% of the 80% went to making fuel, and 58.64% of the 80% were feed to livestocks. Then the remaining 12.76% of the 80% (10% of the total 13M bushel) were processed into different forms, and were supplied to the market as direct human food.
Although you may still argue that the 10% used for direct human consumption is less than the 14% of none-GM corn produced, it is a well known and intensively discussed topic that the corn syrups used in food industry are mainly made from GM corns.
You can regard corn syrup as one magic ingredient for the food industry. The other magic ingredient is soybean protein, which, in the US, mainly comes from GM soybeans.
In the US, it is estimated that 75% of processed food (what Americans like most
) contains transgenic ingredients. Next time when you buy any processed food, including biscuits, candies, fries, burgers, sausages, hams, drinks... basically anything that's not in the animal or plant's original form, check the ingredients for the two magic bullets.
And the 58.64%x80%=47% of the yearly product of corn that fed to livestocks will still end their journey in human stomachs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food
In 2009, countries that grew 95% of the global transgenic crops were the United States (46%), Brazil (16%), Argentina (15%), India (6%), Canada (6%), China (3%), Paraguay (2%) and South Africa (2%).[13] The Grocery Manufacturers of America estimate that 75% of all processed foods in the U.S. contain a GM ingredient[28] . In particular, Bt corn, which produces the pesticide within the plant itself, is widely grown, as are soybeans genetically designed to tolerate glyphosate herbicides. These constitute "input-traits" are aimed to financially benefit the producers, have indirect environmental benefits and marginal cost benefits to consumers.In the US, by 2009/2010, 93% of the planted area of soybeans, 93% of cotton, 86% of corn and 95% of the sugar beet were genetically modified varieties.[11][12]. Genetically modified soybeans carried herbicide-tolerant traits only, but maize and cotton carried both herbicide tolerance and insect protection traits (the latter largely the Bacillus thuringiensis Bt insecticidal protein). In the period 2002 to 2006, there were significant increases in the area planted to Bt protected cotton and maize, and herbicide tolerant maize also increased in sown area.[29]
Of course, what Americans do is not always the best. North American food and the way many north Americans eat, are probably the two worst things you can find in the world.
But talking about China, China is a country with barely enough(?) arable land and a growing, huge population. Organic? 40 years ago, everything in China was organic, but they were just not enough.
For this following question, I think you may consult the [Iron Hand]:
1994年他就创办《新语丝》， 而这些都是要钱和时间的， 方既不是有闲， 又没有钱，这么搞这么多东西？要是他就是喜欢和人分享自己的思想，做一个弄潮儿， DOT COM泡沫的时候他绝对应该趁势而起， 而不是在裹足不前， 痛失良机。
家园 查不到方舟子的专利 在美国专利商标局没有找到Fang Shimin的专利。
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