主题：【原创】宁前道袁崇焕与蓟辽督师袁崇焕 -- 红茶魔术猫

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Another thing is Emperor Chong

Some of People who try to devalue

Yuan is because they worried that if Yuan is right, then Emperor Chongzhen is too stupid, and this whole dynasty deserved to be overthrown by Manchuria.

Actually, Empror Chong is not perfect either, although I don't like him, yet I respect him for dying for this dynasty.

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- - 🙂【讨论】究竟应该怎么定义民族英雄？希望大家都来发表意见红茶魔术猫字1745 2008-01-28 22:35:48
    🙂袁的名声大半要归结于死得太惨知之后哀字132 2008-01-29 02:28:47
    🙂想想于谦比他牛不知道哪里去了闻砾字14 2008-01-30 12:53:16
    🙂Another thing is Emperor Chong
    🙂就是论事，崇祯的好坏并不能掩盖袁的得失～知之后哀字357 2008-01-29 02:32:11
- 🙂本来就不打算给他做什么定论,这就是我的一家之言 4 红茶魔术猫字964 2008-01-28 10:15:18

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