主题：【原创】老子英雄儿好汉 -- 爱莲

多谢多谢！

其实除了血缘外，另一个贯穿Nobel Laureates 的更重要的关系恐怕是师承关系了。什么我是你的研究生，你是他的Postdoc，谁和谁坐地分赃，谁和谁拼死火并。物理，化学，生理医学这三个还稍微好一些，经济学就颇有派系的影子了，至于文学和和平奖，不提也罢。

对了，和爱莲兄小抬一杠，好像有一年的和平奖颁给的了联合国维和部队（要不然就是绿色和平组织，记不清了），总之是一大伙子人。要是把他们个顶个都算上，好家伙，恐怕得有个几十上百万获奖者，可不止七百多个，哈哈哈哈。

Are you one of them?

你有吗？ 悄悄地告诉俺，不然不好玩了。

争当老三吧。

俺下了。问全家好。

看了几十几十贴了

刚回来？可惜了，看看以后是否有面缘。

去西山也不用摆渡了。有个同学老家在西山，后来在湖上打牌吃饭，时间太短。

有意思

总共６８０名获奖者中，犹太人或具有犹太血统者共有１３８人，占了１／５！

爱莲san，要乱拌也要正确啊。USMLE什么时候承认了中国的MD学位啊？？？让我高兴了半天。

quoted from NBME.org:

Students and graduates of medical schools in the United States, and Canada accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education or the American Osteopathic Association

in order to participate the board I and II in American Board, your school needs accredation from the association. FYI, a degree of MD from China doesn't equal to the MD in USA. (i am pretty sure you know that, right? )

国内的医学院是本科，而美国的医学院是本科后的“研究生院”。但国内的“MD"是可以直接考美国要上医学院后才能考的BOARD，故合算。

外链出处

爱莲san，我可再次见识河里的牛人的"牛". 要不是你这么认真，我也不会回你帖。也解决了为什么美国的医疗机构里有不同国家学历的医生了。

你没错，但也不全对。不是所有国内的“MD“ 都可以直接考usmle。（打字太慢，下以英文说）

i understood you correctly. you said if the "so-called" MD people from china were able to TAKE and PASS the american medical boards, they would be better off than a person who gets PHD here b/c they saved time and "uncle sam".

in general, there are conceptual misunderstandings in exams, NBME, and ECFMG between you and me. USMLE is just an exam service which is owned by nbme and ecfmg. NBME (national board of medical education)is for graduates from american and canadian medical schools, and ECFMG is for all graduates from medical schools outside of US. therefore, chinese MDs take the same exams, but not thru the same board which med students here always talk about.

true, some MD at certain chinese schools in china are able to take exams directly without going to american medical schools again. however, not all chinese medical schools are on the credential list of ECFMG, so not everybody who got their "MD" degree from china is able to come and take the exams. only "牛人" do.

just in case somebody out there are interested in how to get hands on this, here is some basic info.

for foreign medical graduates, they HAVE TO go around the same exams, Which are usmle step 1 and step2, by a program, and the program is called ECFMG. their website: http://www.ecfmg.org/2007ib/ibexam.html#mse

foreign medical personals should not go for NBDE, which is for american and canadian accredicted schools graduates.

in order to apply for ECFMG, applicants' schools have to be on their credetial list from ECFMG. then, the program will admit you as their certificate candidates.

after taking and passing usmle step 1 and step2, you then can procede to step 3 which lead you to a unrestricted medical practise liscense within united states, but liscesure precedures depends on different states.