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家园 前几天看新闻说山姆要从毛子那里买军用直升机

专门用在阿富汗。

家园 这边都与小巴快干上了

哪来的立地成佛啊,明摆着的,世界上唯一家拥有核武器的伊斯兰国家,他盖茨能睡好觉才怪。

  美国和巴基斯坦之间的部队交火在5月17日星期二升级,当美国的北约直升机在瓦济里斯坦侵犯巴基斯坦领空。巴基斯坦部队表现出高度警戒状态,并立即开枪射击,美军直升机也做了回击。两名在达塔勒一对巴基斯坦在边境检查站得士兵受伤。

  一个由中情局、RAW、摩萨德伪装的塔利班组织

  能为美印对巴基斯坦行动辩护的方法是塔利班恐怖活动的剧增。据巴基斯坦主流媒体报道,美国中央情报局,以色列摩萨德,印度的RAW已经创造了一个自己版本的塔利班组织countergang,而且直接受命于他们。

  “中央情报局(CIA)的特工已经渗透到塔利班和基地组织网络,并创建了自己的Tehrik-e-Taliban组织(TTP),是为了破坏巴基斯坦。”前巴基斯坦旁遮普区情报局指挥官(ISI),退休准将Aslam Ghuman说:“在我访问美国期间,我才知道以色列情报机构摩萨德在中情局的直接监督下,以及得到印度RAW的默许,打算破坏巴基斯坦的稳定。“

家园 是米-17

便宜,皮实,容易使用,不买它就亏了。

家园 中国为什么当时不引进米-17生产线呢?

600万美元成本是够便宜的。

家园 已经引进了,正在成批生产

2008年就开始了,定点在四川蓝天。

家园 是高原型么?
家园 作者获得通宝一枚。
家园 没有说,估计是加大马力的高原型

这是中国看重的,也是现在米17的主力型号。

家园 查了一下四川蓝天直升机有限公司近况

发现这家公司最初是个修理厂,得到过一架mi-17做散件装配,后来搞了些民用mi-17的组装。

但似乎不是正规军,放狗搜不出来企业网站,而是说“四川蓝天直升机有限公司是成都市武侯区火南街办引进的重大产业化项目”。

街道办的重大项目......造飞机......虽然英雄不论出身,毕竟玄了点。2007、08炒作了些消息,现在基本悄无声息了。而且搜到一个CD帖子说:

反正部队接受过那厂出的17,结果后部某零件装反,一等...

2010年12月一个帖子说

现在在试装乌克兰哪个高原直升机用发动机

家园 这个就不大清楚了,希望不要放空炮
家园 倒也不是空炮

估计陆航还是不是真想造mi-17。真想了,别说街道办,就是小学的校办企业都能搞成巨无霸。

家园 还有一个原因,它们经过阿富汗实战检验过

这点是其他产品没法比的。

家园 又查到了strategic page 6月1日消息

说中俄合作生产米171,说预计今年总保有量可达300架,未来可达1000架。但蓝天厂生产的飞机,似乎可确认的仅是1架军机+5架青岛的民用机(均已交货)。

早在08年5月就报道蓝天了(下文),但6月1日新闻是说2010年建厂。由于蓝天没有自己的企业网站,许多消息无从得到第一手确认。

外链出处

China Adopts The Legal Mi-171

June 1, 2011: Now that China can legally manufacture the Russian Mi-171 helicopter, it is increasing production and continuing to buy these helicopters from Russia. By the end of the year, China will have nearly 300 Mi-171s, and this is becoming the standard transport helicopter for them. China may eventually have over a thousand Mi-171s.

Last year, Chinese and Russian helicopter manufacturers established a joint venture that will perform maintenance and refurbishment on helicopters, especially those of Russian design. This is part of a larger plan, which also includes the factory in China building Mi-171s.

The M-171 is basically an inexpensive transport helicopter. But it can easily be modified to carry weapons, or any other specialized gear. Some of the Mi-171s are even being equipped with radars and other sensors, to be used for reconnaissance and surveillance. The basic Mi-171 is based on the 1970s era Mi-17, which is the export version of similar Mi-8. Weighing about 12 tons, and carrying a four ton load, the Mi-171 has a range of 590 kilometers at a cruising speed of 250 kilometers per hour. There is a crew of three, and as many passengers as can be squeezed in (up to 40 people, but usually just 20 or so.) A sling underneath can also carry up to four tons.

Several hundred Mi-171s have been exported from Russia. The helicopter is rugged, inexpensive ($4-5 million each) and better suited for less affluent nations. Development of this model was completed in 1998 and Russia has been pushing sales hard.

Three years ago, Russia and China signed an agreement, in which China promised to stop stealing Russian military technology. It appears that the main function of the new "military technical cooperation" agreement was to stop China from exporting their copies of Russian equipment, and competing with the Russian originals. This agreement immediately led to some interesting proposals regarding helicopters. Russia agreed to sell China six Helix anti-submarine helicopters, with the possibility of joint manufacture. Meanwhile, the Mi-171 deal quickly turned into the Chinese Mi-171 factory.

There was also a proposal for China and Russia to jointly develop a large transport helicopter, based on the existing Mi-26T (a 20 ton aircraft that can carry 80 passengers). There may be other joint development deals to produce updated versions of existing Russian helicopter designs. This sort of thing could be mutually beneficial, and China now has a domestic source for inexpensive transport helicopters, which its civilian and military markets are demanding many of

旧消息

RussiaChina starts producing Russian Mi-171 helicopters - paper

10:57 12/05/2008MOSCOW, May 12 (RIA Novosti) - A manufacturing plant in southwest China has started to assemble Russian-designed Mi-171 transport helicopters, one of Russia's key arms exports, the Russian business daily Vedomosti said on Monday.

China plans to build at least 20 helicopters in 2008 with assembly kits supplied by a Russian plant in Ulan-Ude and later increase production capacity to 80 aircraft per year.

"We consider this project as the beginning of a trend to assembly Russian helicopters in China," the newspaper quoted a source in Oboronprom, which controls Russian Helicopters, a helicopter manufacturing group.

Mi-171 is an export version of the Mi-8 Hip helicopter, which is currently in production at two factories in Kazan and Ulan-Ude, fitted with more powerful turboshaft engines.

According to Vedomosti, the Lantian Helicopter Company, based in Sichuan province, has already received orders worth $42.8 million.

"The Chinese are planning to export [Mi-171] helicopters to Pakistan and Africa, which may hurt Russian exports," the source said. "In addition, the successful implementation of the project could leave Russian manufacturers short of component parts."

In 2007, Russian companies only built 120 Mi-171 helicopters, although they had orders for 150 aircraft, due to a shortage of transmissions and rotors, and according to estimates, there are no plans in the future to increase production for these components.

At the same time, some Russian experts believe it is better to allow the Chinese to manufacture helicopters under license rather than sit and wait until China develops its own version, modeled on Russian designs, Vedomosti said.

家园 美国回不到孤立主义了。

曹爽本来也就想做个富家翁,司马懿让吗?

家园 要大批生产呢!

据说中国已与老毛子达成协议,中国准备生产1000架呢!

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