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家园 【求助】这套录像国内是否已有公开版本?

结识了一家驻日美军,女的在军队,男的到我们公司打短工。听说我对军事感兴趣,愿意提供给我一套美国国防部收存的朝鲜战争战场录像。共计15盘,内容从朝鲜战争爆发到志愿军参战,前后五次战役,乃至板门店谈判,划界都有。

我也看了一部分,自己觉得比较新鲜,但不知国内是不是已经有了。放几个截屏上来,让懂行的朋友看看,如果已经有了,我也就不会太积极,否则努力一下,至少转成数字的,带回来,看有没有用。

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这批录像的题目(101-115),每一部都有这个标题页,然后进入正题

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长津湖之战地图

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一名执行工程任务的志愿军战士

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四次战役中被志愿军摧毁的一辆美军坦克

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从照片上看,应该是被地雷炸毁的

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板门店谈判划界中的中国官兵

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志愿军携带的手枪特写

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中方谈判代表或记者,其中竟有一个女的!

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铁原战斗中的场面,范佛里特弹药量

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铁原之战中美军空投物资

请熟悉情况的朋友帮忙,谢谢,最迟我要在日本时间后天(24日)早上作出决定(主要是要跑比较远的路,有些犹豫)。

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非常感谢大家的回复,根据朋友们提供的线索,这套15集录像中,有13集在美国都是公开的,所以历史价值不是很高。最终和对方谈的结果是对方会邮寄给我免得圣诞节前奔波-- 我特别强调114,115两部分未公开的资料,不要忘了。

同时他告诉我可以提供其他一些录像资料,包括二战中美军在中国战场的活动。这或许有些有趣的东西,这些,他也将同一个邮包寄来。因为电话里不及详谈,到底有什么,就只能推测了。

感触是如同足球场上不需要语言,有共同爱好的朋友,也往往无须太多的口舌计较。


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家园 凤凰卫视今天的节目上有您这第二张图的镜头,

还有上星期的《断剑》有第三张图的画面,还有最后那个图的画面。

我估计凤凰卫视或者有一部分,因为上星期的《断剑》的解说中提到过美国的录象。

个人收藏,很有意义,但其它意义不清楚。

家园 一共13部, 都能从网上下载

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 101-113 是美国人角度讲朝鲜战争的, 都能下载 (链接如下)。 如果硬盘足够大,网速足够宽,或者耐心足够的话,不妨下MPEG2格式的,基本是500 - 1000 M/部。

另外,在youtube上直接看也可以。 比如这个链接:

http://www.youtube.com/user/FuhrerVonFreiberg#g/c/3172705ED957A358

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关于这系列纪录片的简介:(http://www.cgsc.edu/carl/resources/csi/eiserman/eiserman.asp)

2. KOREAN WAR COMBAT BULLETINS (These are newsreel-type films.) D-1.

Combat Bulletin No. 101. Korea Battles for Time. (B&W/16-mm/29 min,/1950) Pictured are logistics and combat operations of air, sea, and ground forces of the United Nations in Korea from 10 July through 10 August 1950. D-1.(SAVPIN 20264).

Combat Bulletin No. 102. Korea Turning the Tide. (B&W/16mm/22 min./1950) Combat activities in Korea during the period 10 August through 20 September 1952 are covered, showing the landing on Wolmi Island and the capture of Inchon. D-1. (SAVPIN 20265).

Combat Bulletin No. 103. Korea UN Offensive. (B&W/16mm/21 min./1950) Fighting in Korea during the period 20 September through 20 October 1952 is depicted, including the recapture of Seoul and the capture of Pyongyang. D-1. (SAVPIN 20266).

Combat Bulletin No. 104. Chinese Reds Enter War. (B&W/16-mm/21 min./1951) Among the events shown are combat operations in Korea during 20 October through 20 November 1950; the Chinese Communists as they enter the war; and the treatment and evacuation of wounded soldiers by air. D-1. (SAVPIN 20267).

Combat Bulletin No. 105. UN Forces Escape Trap. (B&W/16-mm/16 min./1951) This film covers combat in Korea during 20 November through 10 December 1950, activities that include the largest amphibious evacuation in military history. D-1. (SAVPIN 20268).

Combat Bulletin No. 106. UN Forces Consolidate Below 38th Parallel. (B&W/16-mm/20 min./1951) This film shows operations in Korea during 20 December 1950 through 20 January 1951, which include UN forces being evacuated from Hungnam and the flight of civilian refugees. D-1. (SAVPIN 20269)

Combat Bulletin No. 107. UN Forces Move North. (B&W/16-mm/17 min./1951) Represented in this film are combat in Korea during 20 January through 20 February 1951, including Suwon as it is captured and Red resistance as it stiffens on the central front. D-1. (SAVPIN 20270).

Combat Bulletin No. 108. (B&W/16-mm/18 min./1951) Covered in this film are combat activities in Korea during 20 February through 20 March 1951, which include the continuing UN offensive and Operation Killer and the effects on it by weather. D-1. (SAVPIN 20271).

Combat Bulletin No. 109. UN Forces Cross 38th Parallel. (B&W/16-mm/19 min./1951) Among the events pictured are operations in Korea, 20 March through 20 April 1951, which reveal a view of UN forces as they cross the 38th Parallel and the official activation of SHAPE headquarters. D-1.(SAVPIN 20272).

Combat Bulletin No. 110. Reds Launch Spring Offensive. (B&W/16-mm/15 min./1951) Combat activities in Korea, 20 April through 20 May 1951, are shown, as the Red spring offensive is stalled before it starts. D-1. (SAVPIN 20273).

Combat Bulletin No. 111. UN Counterattack. (B&W/16mm/16 min./1951) Events portrayed are combat activities in Korea, 20 May through 20 June 1951, as allied units push north and the tide of battle turns. Airlift delivery is shown, as it provides supplies to the front. D-1. (SAVPIN 20274).

Combat Bulletin No. 112. Korean Cease-Fire Talks. (B&W/16-mm/18 min./1951) Featured in this film are activities in Korea during 20 June through 20 July 1951, with emphasis on the cease-fire talks at Kaesong. D-1. (SAVPIN 20275).

Combat Bulletin No. 113. Stalemate in Korea. (B&W/16mm/18 min./1951) Among the events chronicled are combat activities in Korea during 20 July through 20 August 1951, which feature continuing ground action, the return of refugees to Seoul, and ongoing cease-fire talks. D-1. (SAVPIN 20276).

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下载链接:

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 101 KOREA BATTLES FOR TIME (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20264

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20264

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 102 KOREA TURNING THE TIDE (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20265

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20265

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 103 KOREA U.N. OFFENSIVE (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20266

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20266

Combat Bulletin No. 104. Chinese Reds Enter War.

(meokey的功劳)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.2569442

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.2569442

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 105 U.N. FORCES ESCAPE TRAP (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20268

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20268

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 106 U.N. FORCES CONSOLIDATE BELOW 38TH PARALLEL (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20269

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20269

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 107 U.N. FORCES MOVE NORTH (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20270

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20270

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 108 (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20271

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20271

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 109 U.N. FORCES CROSS 38TH PARALLEL (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20272

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20272

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 110 REDS LAUNCH SPRING OFFENSIVE (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20273

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20273

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 111 U.N. COUNTERATTACK (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20274

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20274

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 112 KOREAN CEASE-FIRE TALKS (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20275

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20275

COMBAT BULLETIN NO. 113--STALEMATE IN KOREA (1951)

http : //www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20276

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20276

家园 Link to 103 is incorrect

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.dod.dimoc.20266

家园 谢谢指正。改了。

不停copy/paste, 一大意就出错了。

谢谢帮忙捉虫。

家园 104 在这儿

Big Picture: Chinese Reds Enter the Korean War

http://www.archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.2569442

虽然编号与其他几集不连续,但看介绍似乎这就是104。我正在下,下完了验证一下

家园 按网上找到的,应该只有13部。

共计15盘,内容从朝鲜战争爆发到志愿军参战,前后五次战役,乃至板门店谈判,划界都有

这批录像的题目(101-115),每一部都有这个标题页,然后进入正题

板门店谈判划界中的中国官兵

按网上找到的,应该只有13部。而按您说的,“这批录像的题目(101-115)”,似乎15部。 能否确认一下?

另外,“每一部都有这个标题页”。 这是因为Combat Bulletin是那种在电影院播放的新闻短纪录片 (newsreel), 所以才会有标题页。

还有,截图显示的谈判应该不是在板门店。Combat Bulletin No. 101-113 拍于1950-1951年。 按网上能找到的,最后一部"Stalemate in Korea"记录的事件截止到 1951年8月20号,内容包括 “continuing ground action, the return of refugees to Seoul, and ongoing cease-fire talks". 这个停火谈判应该是在开城进行,移到板门店是当年10月的事情,谈的内容也到不了“谈判划界”的地步。

家园 应该就是了

截图上显示的事件 "20 Oct - 20 Nov"。 正好和简介中提到的"Among the events shown are combat operations in Korea during 20 October through 20 November 1950"吻合。 修改一下回帖,把你的发现也加进去了。

家园 youtube上面有,搜这个名字就有了。

combat bulletin

如果要钱就不值得了,欠人情也不值得。

如果白给,还谢谢你,就可以考虑。不要让东洋鬼子或者西洋鬼子白占你的便宜。

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/8_3eAOmLL0k[/FLASH]

家园 萨苏你好!在youtube上直接可以看到。
家园 你看看这个

http://www.dvdspring.com/Article_Show.asp?ArticleID=64465

家园 还有

http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/22161753-1467681170.html#34530758

家园 楼上说的这些网址国内都无法访问

youtube和www.archive.org

家园 先花再提个小疑问

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这里面为啥显示“SEOUL”,俺记得首尔这名称才出来没多久吧?如果是以前的录像,应该是汉城这个称谓啊?

请教一下哈!

家园 英文一直都叫Seoul

只是中文有区别。

而且,啥是“首尔”呀,俺知道汉城这地方,哈哈!

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