主题：HR 554 台湾冲突吓阻法对在美人士影响巨大 -- 舟轻云淡
家园 至今为止都是冻结，没有没收 这个问题河里讨论了不少了。俄罗斯政府和富豪的钱被冻结后，在西方确实出现一些讨论，是否把这些钱拿去直接救助乌克兰难民甚至赔偿乌克兰政府，但是至今没听说实施的。
家园 美国正式将俄罗斯富豪个人财产转给乌克兰， 自俄乌冲突爆发以来，美国纠集西方盟友冻结、扣押、没收了俄罗斯富豪存在西方银行的资金以及购置的房产、私人飞机、游艇等等，总估值高达3500亿美元。
泽连斯基政府一直要求美国将这笔巨额资产转给乌克兰，现在实现了！
据《环球时报》报道，近期，美国司法部长加兰与乌克兰总检察长科斯廷在华盛顿会面。加兰高调宣布，将把没收自俄罗斯富豪的巨额资金首次转交给乌克兰！
加兰称，“这些被没收的资产来自于去年4月对俄罗斯富豪马洛费耶夫发起的制裁诉讼，我已批准有史以来首次，把没收的俄罗斯资产转移到乌克兰，以表支援”！
乌克兰总检察长科斯廷立即对美国主子的“转账”隆恩表达感谢，并称这笔被美国没收的540万美元（约合3600万人民币）的俄罗斯富豪个人资产，将用于重建乌克兰（按照乌克兰当前局势，应该会被泽连斯基及一众大小官员瓜分）。
而俄罗斯富豪马洛费耶夫则一夜返贫，他在海外的多年辛苦投资和资产购置，统统化为乌有，他唯一的“罪过”，就是身为俄罗斯人。
乌克兰人笑得合不拢嘴，他们的愿望终于实现了，毫不费力地就将俄罗斯富人的钱抢劫到手。正如美国司法部长加兰所说，这是首次公然抢劫俄罗斯富人资产，之后所有被西方没收的俄罗斯富人资产，也都跑不掉了！
然而，这却并非美国将他国资产据为己有，洗劫一空的历史开端！
自美国从阿富汗撤军后，便冻结着阿富汗前中央银行存在美国的所有存款与资产，总金额超过95亿美元（约合人民币640亿元以上）！
家园 那么这是没收的第一例 我的帖子提到过“在西方确实出现一些讨论，是否把这些钱拿去直接救助乌克兰难民甚至赔偿乌克兰政府，但是至今没听说实施的。”
看来美国已经已经完成相关法律和诉讼过程，完成了第一例。我总结一下。
一美国和西方总共冻结了俄罗斯国家和个人在西方大约3500亿美元的资产。
二美国通过了法律可以没收某些被没收的资产，并作为对俄罗斯对乌克兰的赔偿，现在法院已经有第一个判例，美国司法部长也已经批准。
三第一个判例涉及俄罗斯富豪马洛费耶夫，他的540万美元被没收。
四马洛费耶夫的总资产大概在20亿美元左右，540万美元只是总资产的0.27%，老马应该不至于因此破产。
家园 阿富汗那个太少，不过美国显然就是这个思路，也是 美国横行霸道的历史习惯啊。
家园 外汇储备的实际意义 中国把钱存在美国作为外汇储备；
美国人拿到这些钱有来中国投资，变成资本。
美国冻结中国的外汇储备，中国不可以冻结美国在华的资产？
1949年就没收过一次，中美建交时双方象征性的结算过一次吧。中国没有吃啥亏吧。
家园 俄罗斯去年可是吃不了不小的亏 好像不只互相没收这么简单
不过我专业不是经济，只是凭着感觉瞎讲讲
真要走入世界大战，这些做法都只是一步棋
怕就怕被搞成俄乌这种代理人战争，昂撒只是隔岸拱火，抱柴救火，然后封锁资源/市场/结算
这个恐怕也是最要避免的
家园 我给你贴全文吧 麻烦你看看原文再发评论。
A BILL
To deter Chinese aggression towards Taiwan by requiring the Secretary of the Treasury to publish a report on financial institutions and
accounts connected to senior officials of the People's Republic of China, to restrict financial services for certain immediate family of such officials, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``Taiwan Conflict Deterrence Act of 2023''.
SEC. 2. REPORT ON FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND ACCOUNTS CONNECTED TO CERTAIN CHINESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.
(a) Financial Institutions Report.--
(1) In general.--Not later than 90 days after the date that the President, pursuant to section 3(c) of the Taiwan Relations Act (22 U.S.C. 3302(c)), informs the Congress of a threat resulting from actions of the People's Republic of China and any danger to the interests of the United States arising therefrom, and annually thereafter for 3 years, the Secretary of the Treasury shall submit a report to the appropriate Members of Congress containing the following:
(A) With respect to each of at least 10 natural
persons described under subsection (b), at least 1 of whom is a natural person listed under paragraph (1) of such subsection (b) and at least 1 of whom is a natural person listed under paragraph (2) of such subsection (b), the estimated total funds that are held in financial institutions and are under direct or indirect control by such natural person and a description of such funds.
(B) A list of any financial institutions that--
(i) maintain an account in connection with
significant funds described in subparagraph
(A); or
(ii) otherwise provide significant financial services to a natural person covered by the report.
(2) Briefing required.--Not later than 30 days after submitting a report described under paragraph (1), the Secretary of the Treasury, or a designee of the Secretary, shall brief the appropriate Members of Congress on the funds
covered by the report, including a description of how the funds were acquired, and any illicit or corrupt means employed to acquire or use the funds.
(3) Exemptions.--The requirements described under paragraph (1) may not be applied with respect to a natural person or a financial institution, as the case may be, if the President
determines:
(A) The funds described under paragraph (1)(A) were primarily acquired through legal and noncorrupt means.
(B) The natural person has agreed to provide
significant cooperation to the United States for an important national security purpose with respect to China.
(C) A financial institution has agreed to--
(i) no longer maintain an account described
under paragraph (1)(B)(i);
(ii) no longer provide significant financial services to a natural person covered by the report; or
(iii) provide significant cooperation to the United States for an important national security purpose with respect to China.
(4) Waiver.--The President may waive any requirement described under paragraph (1) with respect to a natural person or a financial institution upon reporting to the appropriate Members of Congress that--
(A) the waiver would substantially promote the
objective of ending the threat described under
paragraph (1);
(B) the threat described under paragraph (1) is no longer present; or
(C) the waiver is essential to the national security interests of the United States.
(b) Natural Persons Described.--The natural persons described in this subsection are persons who, at the time of a report, are the
following:
(1) A member of the Politburo Standing Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.
(2) A member of the Politburo of the Chinese Communist Party that is not described under paragraph (1).
(3) A member of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party that--
(A) is none of the foregoing; and
(B) performs any official duty that directly or indirectly affects Taiwan.
(c) Form of Report; Public Availability.--
(1) Form.--The report required under subsection (a) shall be submitted in unclassified form but may contain a classified
annex.
(2) Public availability.--The Secretary of the Treasury shall make the unclassified portion of the report required under subsection (a) available to the public on the website and social media accounts of the Department of the Treasury--
(A) in English, Chinese, and any other language
that the Secretary finds appropriate; and
(B) in precompressed, easily downloadable versions that are made available in all appropriate formats.
SEC. 3. PROHIBITION ON FINANCIAL SERVICES FOR CERTAIN IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
(a) In General.--The Secretary of the Treasury may prohibit a United States financial institution, and any person owned or controlled
by a United States financial institution, from engaging in a significant transaction with--
(1) a natural person covered by a report made under section
2(a); or
(2) the immediate family of a person described under paragraph (1), if the Secretary finds that such immediate family benefits from funds described in the report.
(b) Termination.--Subsection (a) shall have no force or effect on the earlier of--
(1) the date that is 30 days after the date that the President reports to the appropriate Members of Congress that the threat described under section 2(a)(1) is no longer present; or
(2) the date that is 25 years after the date that the Secretary of the Treasury submits the final report required under section 2(a)(1).
SEC. 4. DEFINITIONS.
For purposes of this Act:
(1) Appropriate members of congress.--The term ``appropriate Members of Congress'' means the Speaker and minority leader of the House of Representatives, the majority leader and minority leader of the Senate, the Chairman and Ranking Member of the Committee on Financial Services of the House of Representatives, and the Chairman and Ranking Member of the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs of the Senate.
(2) Financial institution.--The term ``financial
institution'' means a United States financial institution or a foreign financial institution.
(3) Foreign financial institution.--The term ``foreign financial institution'' has the meaning given that term in section 561.308 of title 31, Code of Federal Regulations.
(4) Funds.--The term ``funds'' has the meaning given to such term by the Secretary of the Treasury.
(5) Immediate family.--The term ``immediate family'' of any natural person means the following (whether by the full or half blood or by adoption):
(A) Such person's spouse, father, mother, children, brothers, sisters, and grandchildren.
(B) The father, mother, brothers, and sisters of
such person's spouse.
(C) The spouse of a child, brother, or sister of such person.
(6) United states financial institution.--The term ``United States financial institution'' has the meaning given the term ``U.S. financial institution'' under section 561.309 of title 31, Code of Federal Regulations.
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家园 那些是拿美国国籍的美国人吧。真是以善意解释美帝每项举措。 至于被美帝制裁的“官方人员”的范围，那还不是美帝一张嘴随便定。
来看看美帝不久之前认定的制裁人士和制裁对象：1. 厦门市“黄元雄警长，厦门公安局梧村警察局“；2. 噢，还有一所中学”西工大附中“（附加一句，对于西工大附中的制裁是不是有点那个株连十族的意思了，谁叫歼20总师是西工大毕业的呢）。
美籍华人只能指望自己祖宗八代五服之内，最好没有在中国吃财政饭的、没有党员、没有供职国企的人士了。
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据多家外媒报道，美国国务院于本周四宣布了一批制裁国外官方人员的名单，其中包括一名来自中国厦门市的民警。 然而，此事却把中国网民，还有中国各地的警察叔叔们，都给逗坏了。 如下图所示，就在美国时间周四，美国总统特朗普当局的国务卿蓬佩奥，宣布了一份对外国政府现任和前官方人员的制裁名单。 而在这份名单中“压轴”出场的，便是我们今天要说的这位来自中国厦门市的基层民警黄元雄。 首先，虽然蓬佩奥在美国国务院的制裁名单中将黄警官的头衔说得很“大”，按照英文语序直译的话是“黄元雄警长，厦门公安局梧村警察局“，但实际上人家黄警官只是梧村派出所一位很普通的基层民警。
家园 我更关心结果 你举的例子和这里讨论的新法律起草件无关。楼主说的也是在美华人小心了，你的例子是在中国大陆生活的中国警察。前者受美国国内法保护，后者不受美国国内法保护，理论上美国想制裁任何在美国之外的人都不会受到美国国内法的挑战。
中国高官及其直系亲属把钱弄到美国金融机构的难度和风险变大，这难道不是好事？
家园 俺早就说过 美国如今这套对外制裁建立的法律基础就是朝战时对中朝制裁，搬来制裁中国轻车熟路。。。
通宝推：心有戚戚,家园 这个事情好像有点可怕 上次隐约看到个新闻，说美国不保证华人的财产安全
如果出现中美冲突，在美华人的财产可能如同欧美的俄罗斯的富豪被没收？
没仔细跟进新闻。
如果确实属实的话，这个事情还蛮可怕的...
中美距离真的走到冲突并不遥远，那岂不是海华的财产安全都无法保障了？
家园 【转发】一天通过10项法案，美国反华已近疯狂，中国该反击了！ [URL= https://user.guancha.cn/wap/content?id=945259] 一天通过10项法案，美国反华已近疯狂，中国该反击了！[/URL]
有没有人把这8个法案的原文都扒出来看看？
难道只有中央委员和他们的亲属有风险么？
其他华人岁月静好？预祝一切都好
2月28日，美国众议院极为疯狂地在一天这内就通过8项涉台法案，其中包括“台湾冲突遏阻法”、“不歧视台湾法”、“保护台湾法”、“台湾保证落实法”、中国不是发展中国家法”、“海底电缆管控法”“中国货币问责法案”、“中国汇率透明法案”、“减轻中国金融威胁法案”等法案。
“保护台湾法”要求，台湾一旦受到来自中国大陆的“威胁”，白宫应该在“最大能力范围内”，将中国踢出G20、国际结算银行等主要国际金融组织或机构。“台湾冲突遏阻法”要求一旦将来两岸发生武统，美国财政部可以禁止机构提供金融服务，以“曝光在美财产”和“不保证财产安全”的方式，直接对中国进行金融施压。前面是要像将俄罗斯剔除国际结算银行一样将中国剔除国际结算银行。后者则是要没收中国海外资产。
家园 你也翻译翻译呗 我一个学生都翻译了一个。你当大学老师的，是不是也给河里做点贡献？