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  • 家园 内维尔·马克斯韦尔署名文章:这是印度的对华战争--第二轮

    91多岁高龄的澳大利亚记者 NEVILLE MAXWELL 2017年7月15日发表在《南华早报》的文章:THIS IS INDIA’S CHINA WAR, ROUND TWO。

    内维尔·马克斯韦尔,英国-澳大利亚记者,《印度对华战争》作者,因报道1962年的中印边境战争而闻名。2014年,他上传了印度政府保密50年之久的《亨德森·布鲁克斯报告(上卷)》到互联网上。这份报告1963年由印度军方撰写,主要分析了中印边境战争中印度失利的原因。至今仍未印度仍未解密该报告。下卷仍未公布。

    在全文转贴之前,我也做了一些专题研究,发现了一个叫Claude Arpi学者写的有趣的英文资料,提到尼克松访华时周恩来告诉尼克松,1962战争是赫鲁晓夫怂恿出来的。尼赫鲁上了当吃了败仗,就转向肯尼迪求援了。

    这次可能是川大总统忽悠出来的,等魔笛老仙吃了亏,估计会找普京求援。看看人家印度的人缘多好。

    印度国会下周就要讨论对华关系了。有什么新意呢?议会的官老爷们的指示肯定是“坚定不移地通过外交途径解决争端+绝不允许中国改变任何现状”。下指示很容易,漂亮话谁不会说,但关键是谁能执行呢?

    中国外交部公布的清晰政策是:印军必须先撤出中国境外,双方才能开始谈。

    知道这个不撤不谈政策的始作俑者是谁吗?尼赫鲁。

    中国在以其人之道反制其人之身了。外交部耍南慕容的节奏,但愿解放军能打出北乔峰的威风。

    老头活到现在,估计是要亲眼目睹第二次中印边界战争的。

    With India and China interacting over more than 3,000km of undefined frontier, friction is constant and that one day it would break back into border war has seemed inevitable. Two great Indian delusions have created this situation.

    The lesser of these was the outright falsehood spun in the shock of immediate and utter Indian defeat in 1962’s Round One border war with China, when, after the hesitant launch of an Indian offensive to drive the Chinese out of India-claimed territory on the Chinese side of the McMahon Line, the pre-emptive Chinese counter-attack had in little more than a month crushed the Indian Army. It enabled the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to vacate all the territory it had occupied with nothing more than the minatory – and humiliating – warning to India, “don’t challenge us again”.

    The absurd myth of an “unprovoked Chinese aggression” which had taken India by surprise was promulgated to resurrect the broken image of “Pandit” Jawaharlal Nehru, the prime minister personally and pre-eminently responsible for the national disaster. Although long ago exposed and belied internationally, in India the myth has fermented in high military as well as political circles a longing for revenge.

    The underlying and greater delusion is that India’s geographical limits are set by millennial historical forces. The process of boundary formation established and required by the international community (negotiation to achieve agreement on border alignment and cooperation to demarcate the agreed alignment on the ground) thus becomes otiose for the Indian republic. India, having “discovered” the alignment of its borders through historical research, need only display them on its official maps and those would become defined international boundaries “not open to discussion with anybody”, as Nehru put it in a notorious order in 1954.

    He applied his own ruling literally and categorically, rejecting Beijing’s repeated calls for negotiation; and every one of his scores of successors in the Indian leadership has clung, or felt nailed to, that obdurate and provocative stance, in effect claiming the sole right unilaterally to define China’s as well as India’s borders. Every generation of literate Indians is inculcated with that false sense of national oppression by the cartographic image showing broad areas of Indian territory “occupied” by China, with reminders that Beijing’s maps reveal an intention to seize even more.

    The Sino-Indian interface along the undefined and contested frontier is consequently and constantly a source of international friction, waiting only for incidental sparks to set off martial conflagration.

    Border war was narrowly averted in 1987 when a belligerent Indian Army commander, General Krishnaswamy Sundarj, having been foiled in his plan to render Pakistan a “broken-back state”, turned his attention to the China border. He massively reinforced positions there and in deliberate provocation pushed numerous posts across the established McMahon line of actual control. China reacted with matching troop concentrations and air force inductions, and warned India to desist from its aggressions, which, in the late summer of 1987, it did, probably under US pressure.

    The heat went out of the confrontation but the Indian Army was left in a grossly unbalanced situation, with great troop concentrations beyond normal supply reach. That predicament induced a new Indian government, under Prime Minister Narasimha Rao, to negotiate in 1993 India’s one and only border agreement with the PRC: jointly to observe the line of actual control (LAC) and to reduce force levels to a practical minimum. Later, developments fell far short of what the treaty required.

    The current confrontation in the Sikkim sector might appear to have similar origins in military rather than political assertions, with India’s army chief, General Bipin Rawat, beating his chest with boasts that India can fight and win on “two and a half” fronts simultaneously.

    But the context points to deeper factors. India has recently been goading China in what can only have been a purposeful series of actions. Rather than let the LAC mature with the passing years, India has been needling Beijing by taking such doll figures as the Dalai Lama and loud-mouthed American diplomats into the disputed border region India proclaims to be its state of Arunachal Pradesh, and megaphoning the false claim that the McMahon alignment represents a legal boundary rather than a historical but contested claim. The McMahon Line in fact rests on a British diplomatic forgery, long exposed. This may be another indication that Prime Minister Narendra Modi has decided that India’s interest will be served better in an aggressive American alliance rather than in a neighbourly relationship with China.

    The sudden convergence of Indian and Chinese troop concentrations around the current military confrontation in Doklam illustrates again the truth of Curzon’s observation in his Oxford lecture that borders can be “the razor’s edge on which hang suspended the modern issue of war or peace”. There is a spicy historical irony here because this confrontation is precisely sited in the single, tiny Sino-Indian border sector that was long ago treaty-defined and demarcated.

    In 1890, rational self-interest brought the mighty British Raj to sit down in conference, as if on equal terms, with the ruler of the Lilliputian Himalayan state of Sikkim, agree on the alignment of the state’s border and jointly mark that out on the ground. Time, weather and probably local human mischief will have obliterated the border markers but the careful verbal description in the Treaty prevails to prove that the local Indian commander, with or without higher orders, has blatantly moved forces into what is now Chinese territory. Beijing, sorely chafed already by India’s recent repeated provocations, appears to have decided that this is too much, and has itself adopted the absolutist Nehruvian position of “no discussion without withdrawal”.

    The Indian attempt to depict this confrontation as tripartite should be disregarded. Bhutan is not an independent actor, is rather an Indian glove-puppet. A brigade group of the Indian Army, permanently stationed in Bhutan and now reinforced, is an ever-present reminder to Bhutan’s ruling group of what happened to Sikkim when its ruler aspired to independence – speedy annexation.

    Thus this still petty armed confrontation has a real and potentially enormous explosive potential – Round Two of Sino-Indian war. The way out, and ahead, lies where it always has been, in the opening of comprehensive, unconditional Sino-Indian boundary negotiation. What bars the way is the requirement of Indian policy reversal, which in the current bellicose mood and twisted popular sense of injury in India would require heroic bravery of leadership.

    There is an example of just such an action, which seeded what now appears to be the key geopolitical factor of the age, the Sino-Russian alliance: Gorbachev’s reversal of the Soviets’ no-negotiation stance in the border dispute with China, blooded in the Zhenbao Island battles of 1969. From the long-extended negotiations to compromise severely clashing territorial claims emerged a mutual confidence and trust that, annealed by common exposure to American hostility, set into an alliance just short of formal declaration. Should a leader ever emerge in India with the courage and vision Gorbachev showed, such too could be a Sino-Indian future.

    Neville Maxwell, who covered the 1962 China-India border war as the South Asia correspondent for The Times, is the author of India’s China War. In March 2014, Maxwell leaked the Henderson Brooks-Bhagat Report, an Indian government report from 1963 examining India’s defeat in the Sino-Indian War that is yet to be declassified.

    通宝推:普鲁托,gschen,
    • 家园 对付阿三真的不要急

      阿三只能小挑衅,59年阿三鼓动大和尚叛乱,然后接着又步步进逼,在边境逐步蚕食,但当时第一代领导一直在忍让,最后利用62年古巴导弹危机很好时间窗口狠狠的教训了阿三,目前情况也一样,08年开始经济危机远远没有结束,目前世界主要国家都是靠印钞票来维持,谁最早开片谁受损,对付阿三真的不要急,目前增兵加压,看看地理位置就知道,我们居高临下,可以分钟灭阿三,边境离新德里最近300公里,长程火箭炮距离,新疆西藏这些年机场公路铁路等基础设施有了长足发展,而阿三这些年军事虽然有所进步,但主战装备还是万国牌,虽然号称烈火5能打到北京,但我们中段反导已经让它对我们威胁几乎降到0,对付阿三真的不要急,看阿三开不开眼,如果不开眼相信我们会在合适时间再次让阿三痛不欲生!

    • 家园 印度这次似乎是有备而来

      中国不应战也不容易。

      让两个人口最多的国家对杀,而且双方还都有核武器,这是一计毒招,在中国发展势头正猛的火候,把战火从东亚引到南亚,这一切不应该是偶然事件。

      怎么打,如何控制规模,能不能谈判解决,这是个考验。

      • 家园 有备而来又如何,他们敢进攻拉萨、北京?

        当务之急是多下饺子,多造特种飞机,多打卫星,早日拿下台湾岛,以台湾岛为中心,依托海空天军建立1000公里防卫圈,不给美日浑水摸鱼的机会。不然你在西面和阿三摩擦,他们在东面误射导弹到上海,咋整?打完东南沿海的安全补丁再去主动找阿三议论摩擦,三个月也罢,三年也好,小打大打都游刃有余了

        通宝推:三笑,
    • 家园 打的可能性很小

      因为印度已经与巴基斯坦在克什米尔地区打上了,他不可能两线作战的,尤其是在明知中国对他并不具有很强的攻击性,而作战的地形地势与后勤保障又完全处于劣势的情况下,他会用这种方式来恶心你,制造一点国际舆论,但是真打是不会的。

      这件事其实反映的是中国这种谦谦君子,对印度这种无赖的流氓行为还真是比较头疼,没有太好的办法应对。只能等着对方一次一次耍赖到了狂妄的时候碰到了中国的底线,才来一次62年的战争。如果到了这一天,希望中国比62年狠一点,1、收回藏南,2、支持印度内部的民族解放分裂瓦解印度联邦

      • 家园 对付印度招不要太多

        中国只是懒得弄而已。

        印度乱得很,别的不说,今年年初,东北部的曼尼普尔邦首府英帕尔被游击队了封锁四个月,全靠空运维持,印度新买的C-17被用来运油。这还不是第一起,2011年就曾经封锁过四个月。封锁英帕尔极为容易,通往印度内地只有两条破败不堪的公路,都是英国人二战时修的,中国驻印军当时就在英帕尔,印度这些年一点建设都没有,把两条路封住就搞定。

        想想要是中国大规模插手印度东北部游击队,不得让印度high上天。。。

        最神就是,一个邦的首府不到十年被两次封锁好几个月,竟然没有国际媒体报道,要是中国哪个省会被封锁几个月CNN得high成什么样。而最丢脸的就是中国媒体,就知道翻译外媒,外媒不报道就等于这事没发生过,中文搜索英帕尔出来的几乎都是跟二战有关。。。

        通宝推:梓童,老老狐狸,知其何休,八面来风,
        • 家园 你不会是想在南亚再喂出一个小越南来吧

          我看整个阿三,有战略价值的就安达曼岛,其他的别想,帝国路不好走。

          • 家园 那里n个民族,自己就能打起来

            印度东北部民族和部落众多,可以参考一下云南,根本就不用担心某方坐大,放心挑事就行。

            安达曼岛才没戏,那岛上的土著都是极为原始的部落--原始到还停留在旧石器时代(1万年以前),所以挑动不起来什么民族矛盾,你去占那里就是赤裸裸的侵略,而且远离本土,迪戈加西亚的美军轻易就能把你灭了。

        • 家园 招数自然是多,架不住领导不敢用啊

          主席时代是可以做到主动出击,化解矛盾的,因为主席心里有数,不怕。后面的领导心里没底,就保守多了。

          如果心里没底,保守一点也是对的,总之中国在走上坡路,别人都跟不上这个速度,越拖中国的力量越强大,只是面子上就会不好看一些了。

          印度这次其实是一种绝望的耍赖,想阻止中国修路,但是没有太好的办法,用这种办法既是无奈之举,也是做出一种态度,给本国人看的--我们都进入中国控制的一方去肉搏了,但是也依然没能阻止中国修路,不是我们不作为,是共军太坏。

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