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家园 当一个与今天美国鬼子一样强势的政权存在于世界上，-you clearly capture the essence of the China rise.
It is just another empire, the Chinese empire.
But most Chinese are not ready for this big transformation yet.
家园 为什么现在就这么肯定呢，目前只是表现出一种趋势， 我觉得老米实力大损，难道就损失到一定可以实现CHINESE Empire，我们在调整，老米也在调整，我们和老米物质上并没有拉大距离到足以...现在我们得到的是老米妥协，我们某些利益上换取到的，如果触碰到老米的核心利益呢？老米束手？
家园 empires can coexist Before WWI and WWII, the World No. 1 and No.2 were UK and France. Look at how they divide today's middle-east--they coordinated quite well despite below-the-table dirty tricks against each other.
There were English sphere of influence and French sphere of influence. There is respect of each other since each one's strength was limited.
G-2 will be similar like that: America of course loves the one-polar world, but China is rising and needs its sphere of influence for both national security as well as economic security/prosperity. China used to only control Vietnam and North Korea. Now, it is eager to get more.
All empires are the same historically. They only differ in names and lip service.
家园 至少中层（司局长一级）已经有基本共识，目标就是这个 家园 thumbs up. See my post below
家园 想到一首诗 普天之下，莫非王土，率土之滨，莫非王臣。
- 复 想到一首诗
家园 this time it is different empire does not mean 率土之滨，莫非王臣 with a king.
We will have a central group of elites, we will be an empire under a republic. There will be no one single king to answer to. We just wish that those self-elected elites can keep their national's welfare in mind.
The center of this power siphons off resources, natural or non-natural, from around the world to ensure an improving life for Chinese. At the same time, people in the periphery enjoy some benefits in return from resource trading.
America will not fade out quickly. So the world will have two empires, two centers of power for a while.
The european center of power will be squeezed...
Pax Chinois...
家园 只是突然想起罢了 不可能回到君臣的年代了。
家园 您的意思是我们活着能看到这一天。 希望不要等到头发都全白了的那一天。
再之后呢，会不会我们的民众也会像现在的欧洲一样，死于安乐。
此起彼伏，这就是自然规律？
家园 中国人应该不会死于安乐，大概会死于扩张 家园 正好接上宇宙殖民，于是就不会死与扩张了 全看谁能够正好和宇宙殖民接上，不能先撑死了。
家园 从唐朝经验看来，中国这个民族在扩张时期是比较大大咧咧 的，做事情不计成本，不惜代价，为了一点虚名可以赔上老本。结果必然是入不敷出，最终瓦解。
家园 外因是事物发展的条件 历史不会是简单的重复，以前确实是天朝，高帽把自己压死。
现在虽然崛起，那是鸦片战争以来付出不菲的代价。并且还一直被打脸，美帝目光短浅啊，要是一直帮忙抹红TG政权，那tg就没危机感，愈腐败，更早失去民心，TG阶层就不得不当好家奴。
连周边的阿猫阿狗都来打脸，最典型的就是越南，金融危机时来借钱，现在大把买军火、还把南海问题扩大化、高调化。不断的打hw的脸，真爽。无敌国外患者，国恒亡。中国目前的进步，离不开美日印欧等 明着暗着的打压。 目前国家关注民生问题、给予老百姓民主权利，BBC NBC...没有“功劳”吗？。封建社会几千年来对老百姓生命、权利的漠视...............让暴风雨来得更猛烈些吧。