主题：【原创】重温《美国往事》 -- 棋人鲁大耍
家园 【原创】重温《美国往事》 看到这个片子以前一直认为《阳光灿烂的日子》是最牛掰的电影，连贝姐主演的《西西里的美丽传说》都在效仿么。看到以后不得不承认，这片子才是《阳光灿烂》的祖宗，尤其这片子的音乐，是牛掰中的牛掰，无以复加的牛掰。上网搜索才知道这片子最早流传进大陆的时候震了包括朔爷在内的一拨文化鸟人——天下文章一大抄啊。
包装盒内印的影评有一句“整个人生都在里面”。此话怎讲？——朔爷说原来以为这世界是美好的，而且将来会更美好。后来才知道这世界并不那么美好，而且有些东西很不美好。这是他对大环境的感慨，基本也适用于个人的感受。人在找寻过去的时候总会发现过去的东西并不象记忆中那样美好。所以片中的女主角在最后劝德尼罗不要去见他的老朋友，因为大家就剩下回忆了，见了面澄清了真相就连这点回忆都没有了。
曾经重走过小学时上学常走的一条路，发现记忆中那条宽阔的大路原来既窄也不长。年前还到过初中的母校，除了一个教学楼剩下的都被新建筑取代了，这楼原来也是灰不溜秋并且比印象中也矮了一截。见了些老朋友，结果就是不得不承认那些一厢情愿地粉饰过的回忆里包裹了太多的自私和欺骗。于是想起了同样衍生于本片和王朔创意的《与青春有关的日子》里面耳朵起茧子的那句“美好的童年”——它真的存在么？童年真的美好过么？
——片中另附有纪念导演的短片，老胖子89年去世，只活了60岁，太可惜了。
——把詹妮佛．康纳利成年后主演的《美丽心灵》翻出来放了一下，小仙女长大后变凡人了。
家园 高中的时候下了半天狠心才出手买了仿一区的D9 看完之后不停的听菜单里面那段配乐
家园 送花得宝！ 罗伯特.德尼罗一直是我喜欢的演员，前两天还看到这老小子为奥巴马助选呢!
家园 一点疑问：开始的杀手是MAX派来的吗？ MAX似乎没有那么狠
还有，MAX又没有整容，从政不怕被人认出？
刚看过<JOHN Q>,很感人的片子，一堆大牌： Denzel Washington
Robert Duvall(教父里的狗头军事）
Ray Liotta...
那个医生看上去怎么那么眼熟，一查，竟然是MAX-James Woods:)老成这样了！他还在《CASINO》演出过，不过戴着小胡子.
DeNiro曾经推荐过PESCI演MAX，可惜没入导演法眼，只给了个小角色
家园 唯一不足 是长了一点。不过要讲述一群人的一生，也许这是必要的。
结尾似有深意。罗伯特在鸦片馆的烟雾缭绕中傻傻的一笑，也许此后发生的一切，不过是在他的梦幻中吧。
人生如梦，什么真，什么假，到最后以看不清。最最清晰的，是他们初遇时童年的记忆。
家园 花！ 可惜在美国上映时被砍了一半，导致票房很差。否则影响要大得多
- 复 花！
家园 对于原版，无数人狂赞，偶也是一个 家园 真正的“原版”恐怕没几个人看过 我是说剪辑前的，接近10个小时：）
家园 晕，那恐怕叫电影胶片，能看懂吗？ 家园 还不太一样 。。。At the end of filming, Leone had about 8 to 10 hours worth of footage. With his editor, Nino Baragli, Leone trimmed this down to about almost 6 hours, and wanted to release the film in two three-hour parts.[citation needed] The producers refused (partly due to the commercial failure of Bertolucci's two-part Novecento) and Leone was forced to further shorten the length of his film, resulting in a completed (i.e. scored, dubbed, edited, etc.) film of 229 minutes.
Leone has said that ideally, he would have liked the film to be "between four hours ten minutes and four hours twenty-five minutes" (250 minutes to 265 minutes), and that such a cut would mainly have served to restore scenes developing Noodles' relationships with women.[citation needed]
Important scenes which failed to appear in the 229 minute cut:[citation needed]
* Young Noodles returns to his tenement, discovering his parents at prayer, and no dinner on the table.
When his parents criticise him for being 'godless', Noodles retorts that money is his god.
* A brief scene in the 1921 sequences, showing local ganglord Bugsy (James Russo) and his gang being arrested by the police for bootlegging while Noodles and his gang looked on. This would occur right before the gang's meeting with the Capuano Brothers at the harbor.
The main importance of this scene would be to establish why Noodles' gang is working with the Capuanos. Dialogue from that scene indicates that Bugsy had been working with them, but since he and his thugs have now been jailed, Noodles and Co. have taken over his old job.
* Shots of a black limousine tailing Noodles.
* An ominous garbage truck, used as a link between 1933 and 1968.
* Secretary Bailey arguing with an older Jimmy O'Donnell about a pension scam, just before Noodle's climactic meeting with the former.
* An opium-induced flashback of Noodles and the gang as children.
* Scenes of Louise Fletcher as director of the Riverdale cemetery.
* Noodles' first meeting with Eve (Darlanne Fluegel), and many other minor scenes with Eve. In the original shooting script, this occurs after his rape of Deborah (which happens at night, rather than early morning). A very drunk Noodles meets Eve in a speakeasy and goes to bed with her, calling her 'Deborah'.
* Scenes of Noodles watching Deborah performing a Busby Berkely musical scene at a nightclub, just before their date, as well as scenes from Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra. (The DVD's picture gallery feature includes an image of Elizabeth McGovern dressed as Cleopatra and holding a snake.)
* A scene of Noodles talking to the limousine driver before the date with Deborah. There is clear enmity between the two characters, highlighting the way in which Jewish gangsters are perceived by fellow Jews. The reason that this scene was cut was because producer Arnon Milchan, who played the chauffeur, felt that he should not have had such a noticeable role in the movie, and he did not want people to make a big deal out of his cameo.
* A long scene involving Police Chief Aiello (Danny Aiello) and his involvement with the strike breakers. (Some of the scene's dialogue was reworked into the brief interview with Aiello on the steps of the police station in the final version.) As a follow-up to this, a scene where the gang plans the famous baby-snatching scene with crooked politician Sharkey (Robert Harper) was also shot. Noodles wants to kill Aiello, but is convinced not to by Max and Sharkey.
* A brief scene during Noodles, Max, Carol, and Eve's vacation to Florida, where a lifeguard, having heard of the repeal of Prohibition, digs up a bottle of liquor from the beach and drinks it thirstily.
* An older Carol (Tuesday Weld) revealing to Noodles that Max had syphilis. In the original shooting script, this scene (set between the beach scene described above, and Carol and Noodles' scene outside the Federal Reserve) also has Carol revealing the details of Eve's death to Noodles: "Oh, how she waited, but you never showed up... She shut the windows and locked the door, and nobody bothered to check. She was in there all the time, with her little capsules...there was nobody at the funeral but me." (The latter part of this scene may never have even been filmed, since Eve's death is depicted very differently in the final film.)
These scenes were all shot, and the footage still exists.[citation needed] However, it is in a very raw state, not dubbed and not edited.[citation needed] Leone and his editor wanted to finish these scenes for a later release, but were prevented from doing so by Leone's death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time_in_America