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家园 基金会的开支要符合章程的规定,比如克林顿基金用途就是公益

克林顿基金会在中国就有办事处,主要是搞艾滋病防治的。

在美国,大把人想搞臭克林顿,除了政府,盯着他基金会帐目的大有人在。

您见过有谁举证小克用基金会的钱搞腐败吗?

捐款的还有挪威政府,你觉得挪威政府捐钱是给小克挥霍的?

家园 挪威政府捐钱给小克明显有问题啊

挪威是民选政府,是要对纳税人负责的,它凭什么无缘无故捐钱给克林顿呢?如果要做公益,它自己境内的基金会难道不能做吗?还可以让挪威得个好名声,还能控制资金流向,哪一点儿不比捐给克林顿强啊。如果没有特别的原因,怎么可能啊。

家园 辩论每次我都看两眼就受不了了。

主要是知道总统辩论第一要素要在任何情况下抓住谈话主动权,多说话,让对方陷于不断的防守的境地。这甚至是整个竞选的主要方针,就是让人们觉得选了对方这个世界就要末日了。然后,大家才会义愤的去选你。

家园 挪威政府不仅给克林顿基金会捐款,还给其他的非政府组织捐款

“它凭什么无缘无故捐钱给克林顿呢?”?

什么无缘无故?

挪威政府不仅仅向克林顿基金会捐款,还向其他的非政府组织捐款,比如说Mercy Corps,无国界医生等等。

不仅仅挪威政府,美国和欧洲其他政府每年都有一笔钱是用于国际慈善事业的,很大一部分就是捐给这些非政府组织去搞慈善项目。

“如果要做公益,它自己境内的基金会难道不能做吗”?

那就要看那个基金会运作效率高,项目搞得好了。

挪威政府拨款也是要经过评估的。

你也知道挪威是民选政府,是要对纳税人负责的?

你觉得挪威纳税人会让政府花钱给某个人挥霍浪费吗?

家园 我现在觉得老E说的"草根化"

是有道理的。

家园 给你看看挪威政府为啥捐款给Mercy Corps

Mercy Corps自己的网站上写的。

外链出处

What was fascinating about the session is that the three countries that were presenting —Cambodia, Sierra Leone and Norway — aren’t countries that we immediately think of as having the largest natural disasters in recent years. In fact, Norway has been on the giving, not receiving, end of aid for many years. However, because of climate change, Norway believes it is important to have something in place should they need outside assistance. (Hurricane Katrina was cited, among others, as an unexpected disaster for a country that traditionally has not needed outside assistance).

These three countries are receiving legal assistance through a partnership between the International Federation of the Red Cross (IFRC), the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) and other relevant countries. The ultimate goal is to put some kind of Disaster Management Law in place, despite the fact that it is usually a very lengthy and difficult process, as described by the presenters. There was a representative from Indonesia who spoke up about their current Disaster Management Law, and the Minister from Cambodia then joked about having used Indonesia's law as a template for Cambodia's law.

另一个挪威在苏丹:外链出处

然后被苏丹赶出来了。

外链出处

Wednesday, March 04, 2009

Norwegian Refugee Council leaves Sudan - Mercy Corps suspends work in Darfur, western Sudan

Press Release from Mercy Corps March 4, 2009

Mercy Corps Suspends Work in Darfur

On Wednesday, March 4, the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague issued a warrant for the arrest of President Omar Hassan al-Bashir of Sudan for crimes against humanity in the Darfur region of Sudan.

According to media reports, the Government of Sudan revoked the registration of several non-governmental organizations (NGOs) shortly after the ICC's announcement. Mercy Corps' registration was revoked. The Government did not offer a reason for this decision.

As a result, Mercy Corps will halt programs in Darfur and Khartoum effective immediately to begin implementing the closeout process as outlined by the government.

Mercy Corps deeply regrets the decision of the Sudanese government to revoke our registration. The agency remains committed to working with the government to provide lifesaving humanitarian assistance to the people of Darfur, and recovery and development programming that is critical to maintaining the fragile peace in other areas of northern Sudan. Mercy Corps intends to appeal this decision under Sudanese law.

"This is a devastating blow to the many people of Sudan who rely upon NGOs for both immediate survival, and help in building more prosperous and stable futures for their families," says Mercy Corps President Nancy Lindborg. "We sincerely hope that this decision will be reversed so we can get back to the critical business of saving and improving lives."

Mercy Corps has been operating in Sudan for five years. The country has been torn apart by two conflicts — a 21-year civil war that ended in 2005 and the ongoing violence in Darfur — and many of its people remain displaced and living in desperate poverty.

In the Darfur region, Mercy Corps provides lifesaving services to 200,000 people who have been forced from their homes by violence and are living in displacement camps. These services include keeping camps clean, training health promoters, building and supplying schools, and providing skills training to women and other vulnerable people.

Mercy Corps takes steps to ensure that our programs are not used to further any particular political or religious agenda. We are completely independent of, and have no position on, the actions of the International Criminal Court.

从文章字里行间能看出,Mercy Corps在苏丹代表的就是挪威的利益。

这可都是跟挪威直接息息相关的。那么挪威政府捐款给克林顿基金会又是为了什么呢?

家园 老E是草根,但并不是草根化

他很明显是以出身来对人分类的,而不是以一个人的所作所为和政治观点来分类。这一点跟现代社会显得有点儿格格不入,跟他自己想要宣扬的观点有很明显的冲突。

家园 其实2008年大选,已经是这样了

奥八通过互联网发动草根粉丝的劲头,跟李宇春有得一拼,共和党方面根本就不在一个量级上。

整个变局的起源,在民主党-----民主党完全应该在2008选择一个年轻优秀的候选人,但应该仍然选一个白人。

因为网络社会已经发展到这个程度了,敏锐的年轻候选人都或多或少会利用网络来动员粉丝,比老派的麦坎/赵姨要占有网络优势。偏偏这时候民主党选了个黑人,真是脑壳坏掉了。我并不是歧视黑人或墨西哥裔,而是因为美国就是一个“隐性的,种族隔离制的南非”,你硬要认宪法的死理,把一层温情脉脉的面纱揭开,很可能逼反红脖,大家过不好。

而民主党犯了这个不可补救的大错后,兄弟连又相当自大,认为可以摆平,摆平的手法,就是“超级委员会”。

“超级委员会”一出台,受到各方面猛烈的抨击,包括井大等,总之是一边倒。但我认为这是对的,是用来平衡掉“互联网小额捐款”的筹码。总之你有你的狼牙棒,我有我的天灵盖,弄好了,可以维持几十年来的政治均势不变。

但这一次大选,无疑也出乎我的意料。就是罗姆尼如此用力,GOP如此尽心,奥八执政如此之差,共和党即便输了,总还会输得不难看吧?事实是输得相当难看,差70票以上。这显示了“以奥巴马现象”为标志的草根造反,掀桌面,已经壮大到了很难“文明扑灭”的程度了。你兄弟连要确保人家掀不翻桌面,只能是要么跟着走(抚),要么开枪镇压(剿)。

现在唯一令兄弟连欣慰的,是众议院全体改选,共和党仍占据优势,说明同样是这批选民,同一天里,选总统投了奥八,选议员又投给共和党,可见共和党并未死透。这种互相扯腿的局势,奥八只要不跳得太欢,小命得保,不过给丫的一个下马威是一定的。

这个下马威,很可能就是这次的“老彼得偷嘴门”,对此事,奥八事先知情,大选期间故意隐瞒的可能性非常大,而且又牵涉到CIA滥用外交官的权限,私设黑牢。总之这个事可大可小,悬在奥八头上4年,是铁铁的了。所以我说老彼得肯定是死透了------他要不死透,怎么变身为毒针瞄准奥八,引而不发呢?

家园 咱还不算垫底的

上次新奥尔良的时候记得很清楚电视主持人在市中心的话:这不是索马里,不是伊拉克,是自己家

话说古巴救灾水平不见得差吧

家园 你说挪威这种国家在苏丹有什么利益?需要别人去代表?

挪威难民委员会是去采石油还是挖矿?

还有第一段,我怀疑你根本就看不明白。

这段的大标题是什么?

The Global Platform for Disaster Risk Reduction — Day 5

那是国际减灾论坛第五天的活动。国际减灾论坛是联合国组织。

涉及的国家不仅仅是挪威。

“Cambodia, Sierra Leone and Norway”,讲得是这三个国家和几个联合国组织就控制灾害立法问题展开合作。

“However, because of climate change, Norway believes it is important to have something in place should they need outside assistance.”

这几句是什么意思你看明白了没有?

那是挪威觉得因为气候变化,需要为万一要接受外来援助做好准备。这个have something in place就是下文的立法问题。

这是Mercy Corps的一个 Director发表的出席减灾论坛的报告。

Mercy Corps拿钱就是搞这些减灾活动的,这有什么奇怪?


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家园 Michele Bachmann 50.5% Vs.49

Michele Bachmann 是在Minnesota's 6th congressional district, 这是MN最红的一个选区了。

家园 挪威是美国情报系统欧洲大本营,挪威给谁捐款不行?捐塔利班

都不稀奇!

头上插个红十字的草标,被塔利班击毙的谍报事件海了。

家园 还是要技巧的。

阿锅就是前车之鉴。非常侵略性主动权,于是输了。

家园 保时捷在北美一年卖2万多辆,大概是丰田的百分之一

中产阶级为主的社区,有几辆还真不奇怪。

家园 按你的逻辑,挪威和中国也有问题,挪威也向中国捐款了

“However, because of climate change, Norway believes it is important to have something in place should they need outside assistance. ”?

您的英语还真够呛,这是国际减灾十年大会的活动,

这说得是挪威和联合国组织合作,应付可能出现的气候变化带来的灾难。

这个大会不仅仅挪威,联合国大部分成员国,和几十个非政府组织都参加了。

按照你那逻辑,挪威政府也向中国灾区捐过款,中国也出席了这个大会。那挪威向中国的捐款也有问题?

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