主题：【整理】中国政府给洋人老爷 送钱了 -- parishg
对内一边忽悠,一边装B,对外嘛..至从矮子挥刀自宫,早已习惯装孙子了,,,矮子临死把话搁那了;'不出头'!这不一直缩着呢嘛...
sarcastic. I just find it very weird that China can be so generous. Europe owed money to States during WWI and paid dearly for all the debts. I just can not believe that Chinese do not leverage their sacred power as a creditor.
I mainly short against certain sectors in States and Europe because I can easily read their disclosed annual reports and smell all kinds of problems. I do short China ADRs, because some F-1 IPO filings just smell shitty--the numbers do not make sense.
要不要和河里玩钱的朋友们交流一下？--I posted first post on shorting Euroland in April 2010. Why do not you just read them by yourself rather than being so sarcastic?
Let's ignore each other.
可惜没有实现，看到tg出钱救欧洲着急上火啊。
你要靠这里拿消息，会被误导的。
根据我和内部人士的沟通，中国的主要立场是观望。如果要救援欧洲，必须美国带头，中国才会跟进。中国会和其他新兴国家一起跟进，也会比其他新兴国家的力度大一点，但是前提必须是美国出大头。
美国反对IMF的扩充资金计划，这一点上中国、日本、德国、英国等等，都表示赞同美国的判断，毕竟扩充的钱大部分来自于这些国家。
美国建议欧洲中央银行成为所有债务的最后担保，并用政府资金投入，这个建议被欧洲拒绝。
欧洲的方案，是各欧洲银行自己发行股票在市场上从私人手里融资，如果钱不够，那么从欧洲稳定基金投入。
both wrong? I mean I can not trust the chinese newspapers, but these two important sources provide stories consistent with other reports. All news you can got from public source is consistent: China/Brazil lead and push for more loans to IMF.
难道都是空穴来风?
thanks. 中国的主要立场是观望。如果要救援欧洲，必须美国带头，中国才会跟进。I hope China does what you said. Just before last crisis, 中投 participated in billions and threw money at Blackstone for their NON-VOTING LLP partnership units. Billions of investment lost 50% in one year. Chinese bankers' record is there: it is not confidence-inspiring.
I suspect that is true: 欧洲的方案，是各欧洲银行自己发行股票在市场上从私人手里融资，如果钱不够，那么从欧洲稳定基金投入。
With the current bank stock prices in Europe, it is suicide to issue new shares. At least this solution is what Germany might want, not what France and PIIGs want or even can afford. I doubt that we can call it 欧洲的方案.
Let's wait and see final announcements on Oct 23. I hope I am wrong and then China is lucky not to comit another 350b there.
for internal corruption: I mean in terms of recruiting. Most got jobs there because of all kinds of connections. In the past back in early 1990s, many staff were sent from HQ to the HK office--do not understand English, and have no proper training/school degree in banking. All are laughing stock for the HK banking community.
Sometimes, you really want to slap some of their staff in the face when you deal with them for various business--all kinds of pigheads occupying all kinds of key positions, making all kinds of unbelievably stupid decisions...
http://finance.sina.com.cn/g/20020210/172143.html
BoC staff used to complain in private that their operations in States were severely constrained by the Fed. But with this level of poor internal controls, Fed will introduce a time bomb into the American banking system by permitting massive expansion of BoC in North America.
美国货币监理署如是说
“不安全和不可靠的行为”遍及中国银行在美国的三家分行，包括“给单个客户风险暴露过高、协助一桩信用证诈骗案和一桩贷款诈骗案、未经许可提前放弃抵押品并隐瞒不报，以及其他可疑活动和潜在的诈骗行为”
http://edu.gter.net/bbs/thread-128781-1-1.html
clearly a person getting job through family connection.
能随便装软件.
就是一方面政府大幅度裁减福利，一方面大规模向银行融资。
美国的结果，就是占领华尔街运动。欧洲的街头运动要暴力得多，欧洲任何国家政府，都没有胆量这么干。
中投投资黑石，是因为被某人强行命令。但正是这个结果，导致该人在金融界的话语权彻底丧失，呵呵。
现在的中投，是纽约投奔的一帮子在操盘。这帮人水平不错。
难道是贴面？
此事我疑惑了好多年。通常这种入股的事是要经过“尽职调查”
过程才能确定股价的。从当时的仓促举动来看，
应该是有人拍了脑袋成交，因此股价高估了约50%。
二十块左右的股票用三十左右的价格买进。
还有一件稀奇的事不知道井底网友可有些信息，
就是港股直通车之事。这个港股直通车明显是在解决
流动性过剩的名义下，由大陆向香港股市输送利益。
这个规模是当时香港股市上的三千点市值。
虽说后来临时叫停，但这其中暴露出来的图谋却是
令人对当时掌管金融政策之人的用心和水平生疑。
现在这件事大陆虽不提起，但香港的曾、任还是
再三提及，不知当时的大头是否和香港的曾、任
有私下的交易。
负责金融这块的不一直是wqs吗？现在改小李接手了？
但是后来变弱。
www.google.com/search?q=online+input+method&ie=utf-8
当然你可以说控制严格，不让随便上网站。cchere是特别的 哈哈
我对parish用英文其实没意见，洗地就没有必要了。
多说无益，发展是王道。