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你也认同美国人封锁也是原因,但美国有没有反思呢,显然没有。有没有JY为此责怪美国呢,显然也没有。既然中国和美国都对朝鲜的现状要负责任,为什么只有JY指责中国而没有JY指责美国,我认为其中有很大问题。

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The Legal Framework of US–North Korea Trade Relations

by Marcus Noland, Peterson Institute for International Economics

Op-ed in JoongAng Ilbo

April 27, 2004

JoongAng Ilbo

North Korean propaganda incessantly proclaims that the United States is “stifling” North Korea's development. And trade relations between the two countries indeed have always been highly politicized. Following the outbreak of the Korean War in 1950, Washington imposed comprehensive sanctions under the World War I era Trading With the Enemy Act. However, these sanctions were partially eased in 1995 as part of the Agreed Framework, and a bilateral agreement on long-range missile testing resulted in the removal of all but a few of the remaining trade restrictions in June 2000.

In this connection, restrictions on the sale of potential military-use items under the multilateral Wassenaar Arrangement (in which both the United States and South Korea participate) were retained. US importers of DPRK products are required to obtain prior approval from the US Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets, certifying that the products were not produced by North Korean entities designated as having engaged in missile proliferation. Subject to this condition, approval is routine. US government officials report that they receive only a handful of such requests each year. Their impression is that business conditions in the DPRK pose a greater impediment to bilateral trade than the regulatory regime.

The relaxation of sanctions tied to a specific political agreement is intentionally reversible: The trade restrictions remain off as long as North Korea maintains the missile moratorium; if missile testing is resumed, sanctions could be reimposed.

So, at present, with the exception of military-related products, there are few specific legal restrictions on the ability of Americans to export to or invest in the DPRK. Imports are subject to a prior approval process, but this is based on a transparent and narrowly delineated certification requirement.

Yet there is little trade between the United States and the DPRK. North Korea is among the few countries that the United States does not grant normal trade relations (NTR) status to, and North Korean exports are subject to the so-called column 2 tariff rates established by the infamous Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930. These tariffs tend to be the highest on labor-intensive products such as garments, in which North Korea is conceivably competitive. Though their incidence is an accident of history, and not an intentional slap, the column 2 tariffs represent a serious potential impediment to trade. Some countries, notably China, have successfully exported to the United States despite being subject to the higher column 2 tariffs (though even China eventually gained NTR status on a year-to-year basis). Most countries that have recently obtained permanent NTR, such as China, have done so through the World Trade Organization (WTO) accession process. The DPRK has shown no interest in joining the WTO.

This disinterest is unfortunate. The United States does not grant the DPRK quotas under the Multi-Fibre Arrangement (MFA), a worldwide network of bilateral trade quotas on textiles and apparel (due to expire in 2005), and WTO accession could aid the DPRK in this regard. In the case of the similarly diplomatically problematic Burmese government, the US government found it politically easier to accept an increase in Burmese exports to the United States than to negotiate publicly a textile agreement under WTO auspices with the repressive regime. WTO membership has its privileges. In any event, the DPRK is one of the rare countries that chronically do not fill their MFA quotas in Europe, where there are no sanctions, suggesting that the problem lies in DPRK's inability to compete, not in trade barriers.

However, should the DPRK obtain NTR status, the United States would likely classify it as a nonmarket economy (NME) and subject it to onerous antidumping rules on the Chinese template. The point is that improved diplomatic relations is no panacea—the United States can be protectionist on purely economic grounds, regardless of politics.

Conversely, the United States trades with some low-income countries preferentially, unilaterally granting them limited tariff-free access through the Generalized System of Preferences (GSP), subject to standards concerning workers' rights, intellectual property protection, and drug trafficking. Given North Korea's disregard for internationally accepted labor standards, it is inconceivable that the United States would grant North Korea GSP privileges under current practices, even if diplomatic relations were normalized. Yet China, which has never received GSP privileges, vividly demonstrates that it is quite possible to prosper without such advantages.

Today, internal conditions and practices in North Korea, not legal restrictions, greatly impede bilateral trade. However, with sufficient reform and improvement in competitiveness, a broad range of policy issues would become increasingly relevant. In this regard, DPRK accession to the WTO would be advantageous. In the meantime, rather than complaining about US policy, North Korean officials would be better served by redoubling their reform efforts.

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家园 那你应该先指责朝鲜吧

人家可不是非洲小国,经济搞不好赖殖民者。干嘛非得非中即美,又干嘛非得指责别国呢?

当年咱们的日子过的还不如朝鲜呢,想改还不是改过来了?

家园 哈哈,

什么叫经典,这就叫经典!

,如果你要跟SB对阵,首先SB会把你的智商拉低到和他一个水平线上,然后用丰富的经验打败你!

家园 拔剑四顾心茫然,看到挺朝派都转进到海南岛,有一种寂寞感

看了大胖子啊,三笑啊等等网友的回复,很遗憾的看到亲朝派缺乏有逻辑有能力的网友,对我提的问题都转进到海南岛去了。

1、中朝联军的战时指挥权问题,志愿军是不是可以指挥朝鲜人民军?是还是不是?

2、认为朝鲜没有治外法权的,那么朝鲜法院是否有权审判志愿军?有还是没有

3、澳门富豪金正男和青年大将金正银的母亲是不是二奶,是还是不是?

4、成慧琳和金正日同居的时候还没有离婚,那么金正日是不是第三者?是还是不是?

5、朝鲜伪造人民币,你们支持还是不支持?

6、美国、韩国援助朝鲜粮食,是不是事实?是还是不是?

7、朝鲜把中朝停战委员会赶走了中方代表变成了人民军板门店代表部,你们支持还是不支持?

8、有网友说朝鲜人饿死不这不那,那么请问要饿死的朝鲜人越境逃跑去韩国,你是支持他们饿死也不跑呢,还是不支持?

我没有列出全部问题,但是没有任何一位亲朝派网友,敢于正面回答。

另外,

三笑网友,我很早就问了你这位山东的法官一个问题,

东方望天:这些问题都可以和litters、组剑和子玉网友核实嘛

你说

生死大事,对公检法来说,是严格按照程序,严谨细致的查明事实,依法裁判的事。

山东省法院09年审结各类案件九十多万件,经过一审、二审、再审三个程序后,服判率是百分之九十九点九九以上。

我问你

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1、那我首先要恭喜你们山东已经基本实现了共产主义司法程序了。因为我们重庆过去文强肯定是没有达到的,现在看来也没有达到。

比如说王的讲话看的很清楚,

两年前,有一个老板驾车撞死了警察,光磊书记批的是杀人,刑警总队认定的也是杀人。那个老板给几十万一忽悠,陈洪刚等人就将该案定为交通肇事,把肇事者放了。

对于这个案子,我第一时间就明确批示:建华:肇事者全部教养三年,不投送。我还批了一条:

杀人还是不杀人天差地远,感觉就是儿戏,有书记的条子,就是没看到法院在哪里。

我不知道你们山东的县法院真么这么牛,请问你们那里判案有领导写条子吗?有,还是没有?

或者说,您又没有”掌握第一手资料“,不方便说。

2、就算你们山东是100万件,那99.99以上付判,那么是否全省就是100件不服?山东有100个县吗?也就是平均每县一件了?

那么请问你们山东省每年司法上访有多少?你们县信访局有多少人?忙吗?何以你一人就能碰到三个媒体记者来干预你们司法?

我看你们省书记比薄牛多了嘛,真么没听说过?

不知道为何你后面何以又说“,即便是这样高的服判率,不服判的案件,绝对数也是很大的。”?难道说我们老百姓的“很大”的概念跟您的理解不同?您能否具体说说这个“绝对数很大”的数字在什么数量级?能否和前面形势一片大好对上?

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不知道为何,你把原帖删除了,却没有回答我的问题,我不知道你这个99.99%是怎么跟小学算术对上的。

这么多天了,不知道你发现了你身边的贪污违法没有,有,还是没有?或者你又不方便说,说实话,我看您这个法官恐怕退休前发现不了了,您还是继续专心找记者的行为吧。

我顺便也转一句镶蓝旗程序员花差花差农民的经典话,这段话的最后是“以为别人是SB的,自己是SB的16次方”,这不是我说的,这是农民网友说的。

又大胖子、农民网友,

本人不是政府官员,没那么多公信力给您几位,您认为自己公信力大的,您自己站出来,你要找公信力的,请找上面山东法官,公信力高达99.99%。

另外,要抓特务的可以去看小人书,敏感词广场左转就是国安部。

家园 先别忙转进,先说说您在“我国”何处?第51次请问贵组

您是在重庆是吧?很好很好,哈哈哈哈哈,哈哈哈哈哈~~~

太好了!!!:)

顺便说一句,您说到逻辑,俺差点笑喷。哈哈哈哈~~~

家园 另外俺提醒与特工组逗乐的诸位

诸位如果顺着他的话题,那诸位就上当鸟。

他的话题是没个完的,而且无论你说什么,他都有别的。对于他们组来说哦,只要搭他的话,就是胜利,无论你说什么,他都能记录您的观点并且顺带鼓吹他那一套。因此谁跟他的话题扯,谁就上当鸟。

比如说朝鲜问题,从老金到小金到小小金是不是坏蛋,是不是什么二奶生的,这有什么要紧?关键是这样一个分裂的朝鲜对中国有利。无论中国是什么制度,无论中国谁当政。这才是关键,扯那些个什么“道义”,什么“正义”,那都是锦上添花的事情。

所以涅,现在诸位知道特工组的同志们为什么非要提俺那句以为别人都是SB的,是SB的多少次方了吧?他们正对此沾沾自喜涅。

呵呵,俺什么都没说,没说啊~~哈哈哈哈

家园 哎呀,您怎么这么操心“诸位会上当”呢?就您聪明?

“诸位的”的智慧不如您,需要您来指导他们了?

您自己不是也说了,“以为别人是SB的,自己是SB的16次方”吗?

家园 哎呀,您在我国何处啊?重庆吗?这里重庆网友很多哦。

哈哈哈哈~~~。这种小伎俩您俺会上当吗?

家园 老农记性真好,给力给力^^
家园 说道记性,黑岛人网友当年批评【金日成神仙下凡】更加给力

作者:黑岛人 发表日期:2004-11-1 17:24:00

金 日成花了几十年,在朝 鲜把自己弄得象神仙下凡一样(还是多元宇宙里LV20的那种)。老实说,他吹嘘自己功业的牛皮和对他及其全家肉麻至极的颂扬,我听了全身就起鸡皮疙瘩。而朝 鲜人不比我们笨,他(她)们能表示相信,大概只能有两种可能:1)由于受到彻底的消息封锁,只有唯一的信息渠道而无从选择的相信,说白了就是被洗脑了。2)由于外界强制力的威胁存在,不能不表示相信。个人以为,多数朝 鲜人二者皆而有之。

你看,我也没说中国不能支持朝鲜,我明确指出从地缘政治出发中国是可以支持朝鲜,我现在批评的是金正日同志包二奶的问题(因为瓦斯说道了朝鲜女人饿死也不当小妾),探讨的是志愿军指挥人民军的历史事实(因为瓦斯说道了战时指挥权的问题)。

我一直说,亲朝派最后都不敢正面回答,最后都转进到海南岛去了。

实在是让我感到,亲朝派无人啊。

家园 这几句话说得透 tg就是被栽了一个宗主国的身份

你不当流氓头子招呼小弟反而是不民主....

看来我国确实还算人类希望。能抑制当老大还是很不容易的。千万不能跟美国学。隔着太平洋还要养狗。

美国人的哲学和他们的思维,真是自我矛盾到了家。也就是流氓,没法理论。

家园 你没说,俺也没看见。
家园 给您送花送宝!

送花成功,可取消。有效送花赞扬。感谢:作者获得通宝一枚。

参数变化,作者,声望:1;铢钱:16。你,乐善:1;铢钱:-1。本帖花:1

家园 没办法

朝鲜是陆权与海权斗争的节点,抛开中美谈半岛问题无异于在说天书。比如说你以为日本人真的很喜欢美国的驻军吗,还不是怕我们中国人将来去收拾他,再一个他就是想赶也赶不动。

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