主题：美国是个“枪支泛滥”的国家 -- buellxb

你大概是看了太多电影里随便一个善良的群众捡起一把枪就能把犯罪分子打成筛子的场面。现实中不是这样的，一个没有太多射击经验的人慌乱中拔枪乱射恐怕造成的破坏不比赵承熙小。

想象一下美国西部片的情景，你周围所有的人都带着武器，你觉得这样的环境是更安全开始更危险？

据美国司法部2004年的统计，合法持枪自卫的案例每年在100，000　至　200，000之间。

当然，有枪不练还不如没有。这就是我为什么列出到哪里练射击的目的。

这辈子当兵已无可能

可以合法地玩枪，只能去美国了，这是我向往美利坚大陆的主要原因

不知道与我有同样情结的同志多不多

如果美国以外还有其他热土可以满足我小小的愿望，请推荐一下哈

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/New-poll-Support-for-tougher-gun-laws-at-lowest-point-in-decades-63920207.html

New poll: Support for tougher gun laws at lowest point in decades

By: BYRON YORK

Chief Political Correspondent

10/10/09 9:32 AM EDT

A new Gallup poll shows that the number of Americans who favor tougher gun control laws has dropped to its lowest point in nearly 20 years.

Gallup asked the question, "In general, do you feel that the laws covering the sale of firearms should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now? Forty-four percent said more strict, 12 percent said less strict, and 43 percent said the laws should be kept as they are now -- making for a 55-44 majority opposed to tougher laws.

That 44 percent is the lowest number since Gallup began asking this particular question in 1990. A year ago, in October 2008, 49 percent wanted stricter laws. Four years ago, in October 2005, 57 percent wanted tougher laws. In May 2000, 62 percent favored tougher laws, and in August 1999, 66 percent felt that way. Going farther back, in March 1993, 70 percent favored stricter laws, and in September 1990, 78 percent felt that way.

Gallup also asked respondents whether they believe there should be a law "that would ban the possession of handguns, except by the police and other authorized persons." Twenty-eight percent said yes, versus 71 percent who said no. That 28 percent who favor a ban is the lowest figure in the 50 years -- yes, 50 years -- that Gallup has been asking the handgun question. Five years ago, 36 percent of those surveyed favored a handgun ban, and in 1993, 42 percent were in favor. On the flip side, the 71 percent who oppose a handgun ban is the highest that figure has ever been in five decades of polling.

Gallup found that support for more restrictive gun laws has gone down in every sub-group measured -- age, sex, race, education, political philosophy, etc. But even with that decline, majorities in some groups still support tougher laws. For example, 59 percent of people in the East support more restrictive laws, as do 55 percent of women, 55 percent of people who have post-graduate education, and 67 percent of people who describe themselves as liberals.

家里有枪是因为所有男的都要服兵役，但是子弹装载密封的铁罐子里，不能随意打开的。

即使有持枪证(CCL)也不允许带枪

很多连执照都不用。别说枪了，坦克导弹飞机大炮，只要你有钱扔，都行。

加拿大的人均持有枪支（包括猎枪？）数量可是高于美国的！而且地广人稀，你想误伤都不容易。

九三年老兄是处于一个管理者（或者政府）的角度去看问题，不管个体(自己)，只管统计和概率（发现国内这个思路很普遍，大家都特别替政府着想）。

Buellxb老兄则是完全的北美风格--我管你什么犯罪率什么的，我只管我自己，在危险的时候一定要一枪在手！

BTW, 我也想搞把枪，LP大人不同意:-(

1920年代的芝加哥就是最好的例子，黑社会的单兵武器是冲锋枪，支援火力有手榴弹和重机枪。就这个火力，已经追平当时的正规军精锐步兵了。你让老百姓也这样装备？

至于说训练，普通老百姓（就算是东湖这样的少数玩枪者）能和黑社会比训练么？中国禁枪，张君当年都知道组织小弟去练枪，如果合法持枪了，他们的训练水平难道还会比老百姓差？

不需要执照，可以民间拥有自动武器，连美国都做不到这一点。

假设校园里某日枪响。于是合法持枪的学生甲乙丙丁等人纷纷抄家伙冲出教室ABCD，然后互相看到了持枪的对方，然后……百八十人的混战之后甚至都没有哪个还活着的学生知道是谁先开的枪，而闻讯赶到的警察看着校园里成百上千的弹孔也无法查明哪个是真正的枪手留下的。而此时真正的枪手已经趁乱跑回家里策划下一次枪击案了。