主题：【原创】世界名枪（１） -- 纸老虎

ＦＮ ＦＡＬ的后座力并不大。我有同样口径的bolt action（旋转后拉式枪机？）狙击步枪,那后座力才明显呢。我的身材并不怎么高大，ＦＡＬ的后座力要比狙击步枪小很多。我第一次打的时候还以为是在打ＡＲ１５呢，还说，咦，怎么没有后座力？不过的确是打连发不好，不经过训练，很难控制。

Ｇ３并不是ＨＫ搞的产品，而是从西班牙ＣＥＴＭＥ买的许可证。由于Ｇ３的特殊设计，它的后座力才真是能震反一头牛呢，和拉式枪机相差无几，按老美的话说：kick like a mule，踢起来象骡子一样。Ｇ３的流行主要是因为造价低廉并且容易制造，可以大量用冲压件，而不是切削件。这道理和ＡＫ４７流行的原因一样（基本上用冲压件）。Ｇ３的roller blowback设计很少为大家采用仿造—虽然有很多国家通过许可证制造Ｇ３，而ＡＫ４７的设计却广为流传，就是说明这种设计并不怎么高明。

我并没有说导气活塞不好啊。

我只是说这是别人的牙慧，老技术了，怎么到了ＨＫ手里就变成杀手锏了？玩导气活塞的在美国有十几家厂子，都比ＨＫ早不知道多少年，怎么到了ＨＫ手里就成了创新了？ＤＥＬＴＡ真想要导气活塞的ＡＲ１５，早１０几年就可以买到了，干嘛非今天赶ＨＫ这个时髦？

导气活塞是老技术，但是往ＡＲ１５上加个导气活塞，并不表明可靠性就一定能提高。往往各人设计不同，ＨＫ的导气活塞和ＣＯＬＴ的导气活塞就会不一样。所以ＨＫ４１６要经过战场检验才行。

再说了，导气活塞要解决的问题不是沙子卡枪，而是枪匣过热和高温肮脏的气体进入枪匣的问题。从设计角度看，有了导气活塞，沙子卡枪的问题反而会更严重—因为多了几个活动件，卡枪的机率增加很多。

别忘了，ＡＫ４７组装精度很差，零件之间的缝隙非常大，这是它在沙地里更可靠的根本原因，而不是什么导气活塞。

我并不是ＡＲ１５的ＦＡＮ。其实每次去打枪，我都不爱用ＡＲ１５，因为回来后清理起来很麻烦，远不如ＳＩＧ５５６。但是如果出去打猎，我肯定会带ＡＲ１５，因为它轻巧。

CETME哪里有本事设计这个？这是二战后一批逃亡到西班牙的前Mauser设计师捣鼓出来的，这是从设计MG42的同一个班底里出来的人。

G3的机理说好不好，说坏不坏，不过在突击步枪上前无古人后无来者，这也是事实。除了G3外，历史上最成功的冲锋枪MP5用的也是roller-delayed blowback原理，实际上就是一个冲锋枪版的G3。

战后的突击步枪都大量采用冲压件，这是从战前MP38/MP40冲锋枪开始的世界潮流。G3在这一点上不独特，M16也是一样。现在民版AR15和精品版M16/M4用切削件是因为有闲功夫，成本也无所谓。打起仗来，军版的M16还是冲压件。

你打的FN FAL后座力不大，和AR15相当，这倒是惊奇。是不是DS ARMS整出什么新花样减后座？

这还是第一次听说呢。

枪这个东西，真正新鲜的已经没有多少东西了，大家都在拾大家的牙慧，看谁拾得高明了。导气活塞谈不上杀手锏，但Delta就是放弃了熟悉的M4，改用HK416了。HK416除了在试验场上检验外，现在正在受到战场检验，而且是Delta的人的搏命检验。

你老是把AK的可靠性归结于零件公差大，就是不肯承认导气活塞比直接导气可靠。直接导气不是没有活塞，而是活塞在枪的后面，所以直接导气有两个地方可能被沙子卡住：导管和活塞。导气活塞只有一个地方可能被卡住：活塞。相比之下，导气活塞大，被卡住的可能性比导管被沙子堵住的可能性要低。再加导气活塞没有火药气体积淀和冷凝的问题，你说谁的可靠性更高呢？

在小口径时代，北约中自己设计枪的国家中，除了美国，没有一家采用直接导气，毫无例外全部是导气活塞。这不是他们不喜欢直接导气的精度，而是更不喜欢直接导气的可靠性不足。

带AR15打猎，只能打小动物吧？最多打鹿？打熊或者野猪会不会威力不足？

现在的塑料，很少有纯粹的塑料，都是带有添料的复合材料，都至少是用两种以上材料制成。

呵呵，你知道沙子卡枪都卡在哪里吗？

怎么导气和制造组装精度可是完全两码儿事儿，你怎么混一起说了？

有很多，其中ＣＯＬＴ，ＬＷＲＣ，ＬＭＴ做的最好，Bushmaster,也有，其他还有乱七八糟一大堆小公司。

An open letter to the gun community from HK’s marketing department: In a world of compromises, some people put the bullets in the magazine backwards…But it doesn’t matter, because our gun is on the cover of the Rainbow Six video games. Look how cool that SEAL coming out of the water looks… If you buy a $2,000 SOCOM, you will be that cool of an operator too. And chicks will dig you.

At HK, we stuck a piston on an AR15, just like a bunch of other companies have done, dating back to about 1969. However ours is better, because we refuse to sell it to civilians. Because you suck, and we hate you.

Our XM8 is the greatest rifle ever developed. It may melt, and it doesn’t fit any accessories known to man, but that is your fault. If you were a real operator, you would love it. Once again, look at Rainbow Six, that G36 sure is cool isn’t it? Yeah, you know you want one.And by the way, check out our new HK45. We decided that humans don’t need to release the magazine with their thumbs. If you were a really manly teutonic operator, you would be able to reach the controls. Plus we’ve fired 100,000,000 rounds through one with zero malfunctions, and that was while it was buried in a lake of molten lava, on the moon. If you don’t believe us, it is because you aren’t a real operator.

By the way, our cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns like the G3 and MP5 are the bestest things ever, and totally worth asinine scalpers prices, but note that cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns from other countries are commie garbage. Not that it matters, because you’re civilians, so we won’t sell them to you anyway. Because you suck, and we hate you, but we know you’ll be back. We can beat you down like a trailer park wife, but you’ll come back, you always do.

Buy our stuff.

Sincerely

HK Marketing DepartmentHK. Because you suck. And we hate you.

Now the G3 is a decent rifle. It is a cheap, stamped sheet metal, battle rifle. It has terrible ergonomics, with a hard to use safety, (and this is coming from a guy with gorilla hands), and difficult to use charging handle. It is reliable, because of the roller locking bolt that destroys your brass, and recoils worse than other competing .308 rifles. The FAL smokes the G3, and the only reason the G3 exists is because the Germans were too proud to pay royalties to those uppity Belgians.

The G3 can be really accurate, if you weld a bunch of metal to the sides of it, stick on a nice barrel, and jack the price up $10,000. And no, that’s not a typo. The PSG1 is absurdly priced, and the cheaper version, the MSG90 is proof that if make anything absurdly heavy enough, it can be accurate.

There is a collapsible stock available, which is awesome, if you like getting hit in the face with a piece of rebar, which is what their $400 stock feels like when you shoot it. Germans must be tougher than we are or something.

Other stamped, sheet metal guns exist, but HK fan boys mock those as commie garbage. See, if you build a cheap gun, but it is from Germany, then it is superior, but if you build a stamped gun in the eastern block (a hundred miles from Germany) then it is commie garbage.

But what brought HK to international fame and the cover of Dick Marcinko books (for example, Rogue Force Delta Green Team 7 Ninja Force Alpha II: The beginning) was the G3s little brother, the MP5. Take a G3, shrink it, and chamber it in 9mm. At the time, CQB doctrine was to use 9mm subguns. Now the MP5 is a neat little gun. I have two. They work well, and if compared to the other subguns of the day, like the Uzi or the Mac, then the MP5 was a lot easier to use, easier to hit with, and was decently reliable.

The MP5 became famous when the SAS used them to kick the living hell out of some bad guys at the Iranian embassy. This was marketing gold, and HK rode the wave. Pretty soon everybody wanted an MP5. It was what all the cool kids were using. Soon every video game and action movie was filled with HK stuff. HK may have overrated guns, but they’ve got the best marketing department in the gun business, and they milked that fee cow until it was dry.

But the MP5 isn’t as great as people make them out to be. They still malfunction. (if you’re favorite gun hasn’t malfed, you haven’t shot it enough). The mags are hard to insert on a closed bolt. Safety still sucks. Most versions don’t have a bolt hold open. Honestly, if I had to get into a gunfight with a subgun, then I would rather have my PPsH.

Read up about the XM8 on most gun boards. According to the interweb, the XM8 is the finest combat implement of all time. In actuality it is a plastic AR18, that tends to melt, break, and is universally loathed by the Army staff that had to test it. It takes bizarre attachments, so no US accessories will work. They took the G36, which is basically a blah rifle, used by a handful of countries that don’t ever actually shoot people, and uglied it up so that it looks like the demented lovechild of Bloaty the Pizza Hog and a Super-Soaker.

Or the HK416. According to the internet, the HK416 is the best gun EVER! It is called THE AWESOME. Lightning bolts of coolness fly from the gun and smite your enemies with Teutonic fury! However you can’t have one, because you’re a civilian, ergo, you suck. And HK hates you.

The 416 is basically an AR with a gas piston, which has been done by like ten companies now, but somehow the HK is better, because it was on Future Weapons, and HK won’t sell it to civilians. In fact, a couple of 416s slipped out into civilian hands, and HK freaked out about it. There is no legal reason that 416 uppers can’t be sold, but HK despises regular people, and the idea of you having their long guns offends them.

HK’s new subgun is the UMP. They tend to break. One of our local PDs traded all of theirs in after they broke all the stocks. Cool idea, because everybody loves .45, but bad execution.

HK’s flagship pistols, the USP line, are decent polymer handguns. They are extremely reliable, that is the plus side. On the down side, their triggers universally suck, but they don’t have to. HK likes to use a square peg in a round hole, (literally) that makes the trigger pull a lot heavier and grittier than it needs to be. Why? Beats the heck out of me. The USP series should be reliable, they’re enormous.

The most annoying thing about the HK pistols is how they cost almost twice as much as every other polymer handgun on the market. Somehow being made in Germany means the USP series is worth $800-$1000, when all of the polymer guns made within a thousand miles are $400-$600. Only most of those guns tend to have better triggers, are just as reliable, and are usually more accurate.

They are reliable, but so is a $125 Makarov. Only the Mak has a better trigger.

One friend of mine took his personal MP5, and cut an extra notch into the collapsible stock, so it would be shorter for when he was wearing his armor, and also it removed the nasty wobble that all HK collapsible stocks have. It is an easy fix, and a no-brainer that the HK should have been doing for years. Fritz at the armorer’s school damn near had an aneurism when he saw this blasphemy against his ineffectual German gods.

Look, gun owning public, just because you saw it on Future Weapons, or read about it on the internet, doesn’t make it true. For the love of John Moses Browning, before you formulate super strong opinions about a weapon, you should have at least shot the damn thing first.

Do I have anything positive to say about HK? Yes, the sneer of disdain they give you at SHOT is priceless and entertaining.

还有这事？不瞒你说，我就是干塑料行当的，造了十几年塑料，还不知道造的结果都是复合材料。你是指塑料添加剂吗？那可不符合复合材料的定义，那东西是融化在塑料里面的，在量上和“主体”也不成比例。没有听说因此而塑料就成为复合材料的说法。

我也找找，开开眼界。

“你知道沙子卡枪都卡在哪里吗”

怎么导气和制造组装精度当然是两回事，但怎么导气在原理上就可以造成低可靠性，这有什么问题吗？

如果按照你说的“带有填料”的都算是复合材料的话，那这个世界上广泛使用的材料中，除了电解铜之外，就没多少不是复合材料了。

我说的是添料。塑料常用的添料很多，特别是玻璃纤维，用来增加塑料的强度，和保持原型的能力。

NATO 7.62*51弹有很多国家实际是采用了减装药版的，比如西班牙，因此其后坐力就会大大减少。可能这位老兄用的就是这种减装药版的枪弹。要是全装药的，后坐力绝对巨大，3000多J的枪口动能啊~.223雷明顿弹才1200多焦耳，而苏联的7.62*39弹也才2000J

G3的问题就是结构太复杂，而且加工也比较困难，因此价格自然不便宜~