主题:【原创】萨苏谈抗癌 引子 -- 萨苏
俺平时很少生病,一两年一次吧。但生了病(基本是感冒)就得好长时间才能好,经常发烧,烧得一塌糊涂,得至少两个星期才能好。说不定就把潜在的病给烧没了。
癌细胞是怕热,不过这个怕热是因是果俺就不知道了。癌症的扩大经常通过麻痹免疫系统,使得免疫系统起不到应有的作用,然后癌细胞大量繁殖。而一些小病引起的发烧,偶然间激活了免疫系统,免疫系统睁眼一看,敢情来的不只是一伙,墙脚阴影里还藏着更凶猛的敌人,于是乎,火并一场。
不过,这样的方法只能对一些免疫系统能涉及到的癌症才部分有效。大部分的癌症,还只能靠手术或药来治。时不时做做发烧友,保持免疫系统经常处于激活状态,倒不失为另一种保持身体健康的好方法。健康和疾病,也是一对矛盾的统一体。既对立又统一。。。。。。
跟我猜想的一致. 外行, 纯粹瞎猜.我这样考虑的: 在电厂, 设备长期不用的, 要隔断时间就做一次试验, 就是启动起来, 动弹, 动弹. 这身体呢, 也是一个机器, 老不感冒发烧, 身体的免疫系统啥的就长期处于休息状态, 起码不是活跃状态. 这每隔一二年就来场大感冒啥的, 发个高烧, 就相当于电厂的试验, 让免疫系统动起来.
基于这样的想法我从来不打感冒疫苗, 然后还说我就盼望感冒发烧呢.
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不过,为了严谨(性命攸关!)我会问问我老爹再说。
一旦有干货,会蒸个小包子给老萨。
当然,别太指望了。
我当志愿者,讲给医院的病友,都让人士气大振
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原理是:利用超声波照射病灶,让其发热,烧死肿瘤细胞。
有些骨巨细胞瘤的患者,肿瘤长在盆腔或腹腔,不愿意冒风险采用手术的方式治疗,也有选择采用这种方案治疗的,也算是一种保守治疗吧。
也是汇聚法。
但是不是靠热能,是要靠辐射杀死肿瘤细胞。
每年一两次的样子,但是都不高,最多两个晚上就好的那种,有没有用呢:(
癌细胞就是分裂无止境的人体细胞,各项特质和正常人体细胞类似,所以人体免疫系统对癌细胞是无效的,杀死癌细胞的手段同样可以危害正常细胞,这是最棘手的问题。而且癌细胞中有部分原生细胞分裂能力特别强,即使通过超声波/射线/药物等将肿瘤基本杀灭,只要有少数原生细胞逃脱和转移,就会重新兴风作浪。
现在科学界正在研究如何鉴别和定位原生癌细胞,只要将少数原生细胞杀灭,剩下的癌细胞就比较容易对付了。
身体内部温度不上去的话你怎么蒸都没用
2005年丹麦科学家追踪了43,205个因不明原因发烧就医的病人,发现他们一年内生癌的几率要比正常人群高而不是低。
[贴子发出后,牛腰网友指出:
我想强调的是,如果你象老萨的编辑朋友那样因不明原因发烧,千万不要以为以后几年生癌的可能性极小而麻痹大意。根据这篇文献的结论,你生癌的几率要比正常人群高而不是低,所以应该尽快去医院检查。]
摘要:
Lancet Oncol. 2005 Nov;6(11):851-5. Epub 2005 Sep 28.
Fever of unknown origin and cancer: a population-based study.
Srensen HT, Mellemkjaer L, Skriver MV, Johnsen SP, Nrgrd B, Olsen JH, Baron JA.
Department of Clinical Epidemiology, Aarhus University Hospital, Aarhus, Denmark. [email protected]
BACKGROUND: Fever of unknown origin is associated with cancer, but the tumour types most commonly involved and the prognostic implications of this relation have not been studied. We aimed to assess the risk of cancer and survival after hospital admission for fever of unknown origin in a nationwide Danish follow-up study. METHODS: We linked the Danish national registry of patients and the nationwide cancer registry, and assessed cancer risk for 43,205 patients discharged for the first time from Danish hospitals after admission for fever of unknown origin during 1977-97. We compared cancer frequency with that expected on the basis of cancer incidence in the general population, and survival of patients with cancer who had had fever of unknown origin with that of controls (ie, patients with cancer matched for cancer site, age at time of cancer diagnosis, and year of cancer diagnosis). FINDINGS: Median follow-up was 6.3 years (IQR 2.7-12.3). During the first year of follow-up, 399 cancers were diagnosed in those who had had fever of unknown origin (standardised incidence ratio 2.3 [95% CI 2.1-2.5]). These individuals had an increased risk of developing cancer--in particular haematological malignant disease; sarcoma; and cancers of the liver, brain, kidney, colon, and pancreas. After 1 year of follow-up, individuals had an increased risk of developing haematological malignant disease and cancers of the liver, brain, and kidney. A slightly higher proportion of people diagnosed with cancer within 1 year of hospital discharge after fever of unknown origin had distant metastases compared with controls (101 [34%] of 294 vs 819 [28%] of 2907; prevalence ratio 1.2 [95% CI 1.0-1.4], and had worse survival than did controls (mortality rate ratio 1.4 [95% CI 1.2-1.6]). INTERPRETATION: Hospital admission for fever of unknown origin is a marker of occult cancer and is associated with a poor outlook.
老萨说的是如果已经有癌,发烧可以抑制或消灭癌细胞。
你引用的论文说的是由于不明原因发烧的人相对于普通人来说更容易被诊断出得癌。如果不明原因发烧是人体对已经存在的癌细胞的反应,那么发烧的人一年后被诊断得癌的比例较高就很自然了。我对这篇论文的理解是不明原因发烧可能是癌的早期症状,可以用来帮助诊断,但是论文里没有说发烧对癌本身有没有治疗效果。
就好比如果有一篇论文说发烧的人被发现受病毒/病菌感染的比例比正常人要高(这个没什么争议吧),我们不能根据这篇论文得出发烧对治疗感染无用的结论。