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家园 哈哈,土遁
家园 解释的好!
家园 出书吧!一定买!还要传给儿子看!
家园 热爱我们的军人们!!
家园 支持! 不过老麦的这句话用得实在是不好!也不应景!

老麦50年代干的就是希望自由进出中国的事情,用他的话很煞风景。而且那句话是他在自己的一系列的政治企图遭到彻底的失败后,被整个社会抛弃前最后一次所作的怨天尤人,或者自怨自艾的一个呻吟罢了。不知道为什么现在一谈老兵就有人用这句话,老麦可从没没想过fade away他从来都是想让舞台上所有的灯光都集中在自己身上。

家园 咳,侯爷,没必要引人废言么

老麦这句话,咱给用好了,就不管他原来的背景啥的呗。

老麦嘴上能说没关系,架不住咱志愿军能打不是?

他说的好,咱打的好;他要是引用咱们说的,那是他谦虚好学--咱们是赢家;咱引用他的,是咱胸怀宽阔,败军之将的话,咱照样用得。

家园 同感,就像引用汪精卫的名句那样有讽刺意味

那样有讽刺意味那样倒胃口。

难道这就是气量不够大?

家园 站在美国人的角度看,老麦在亚洲一呆就几十年,虽然有

功有过,但称为美国老兵也是一点都不过分的。老萨用这标题可能是说我们希望中国人象美国人一样尊敬自己的老兵,我觉得是好意,不能因为是老麦说的我们就不能用了,我们不能因为敌人说了“不自由毋宁死”就说“不当奴才毋宁死”不是?

家园 不当奴才毋宁死?这话看上去好奇怪

我的第一个反映是鲁迅先生说的“欲做奴隶而不可得”,第二个反映还是鲁迅先生说的“那坐稳了奴隶的”~

家园 不能煞风景

大多数老兵是好的,少数逃兵,不能算兵,算是个有头脑的老百姓。

家园 支持!
家园 看见一直在飞的照片,心里很激动。

非常同意萨老大的主意,多写写默默无闻的老兵。

家园 燕兄教训的是!确实不应该因人废言。只是这篇演讲有些不同,

这个演讲是他在1951年4月19日被解职后在国会大厦发表的《老兵不死》,当时他是因为在朝鲜战争中的一系列的失败的军事及政治行动受到解职并调查时作的这个演讲。

用这句话的人很多,只是不知道有多少人看过原文。我贴一下,没时间翻译了,回头再说吧。

文章很好,被视为名篇。只是文中对中国的态度确实有商榷之处。而且充满了自怨自艾和自我辩解的东西,如果只用一句话而不及其余的话,个人觉得不是很妥当。

Mr. President, Mr. Speaker, and Distinguished Members of the Congress:

I stand on this rostrum with a sense of deep humility and great pride - humility in the wake of those great architects of our history who have stood here before me, pride in the reflection that this home of legislative debate represents human liberty in the purest form yet devised.

Here are centered the hopes and aspirations and faith of the entire human race.

I do not stand here as advocate for any partisan cause, for the issues are fundamental and reach quite beyond the realm of partisan considerations. They must be resolved on the highest plane of national interest if our course is to prove sound and our future protected.

I trust, therefore, that you will do me the justice of receiving that which I have to say as solely expressing the considered viewpoint of a fellow American.

I address you with neither rancor nor bitterness in the fading twilight of life, with but one purpose in mind: to serve my country.

The issues are global, and so interlocked that to consider the problems of one sector oblivious to those of another is to court disaster for the whole. While Asia is commonly referred to as the gateway to Europe, it is no less true that Europe is the gateway to Asia, and the broad influence of the one cannot fail to have its impact upon the other.

There are those who claim our strength is inadequate to protect on both fronts, that we cannot divide our effort. I can think of no greater expression of defeatism.

If a potential enemy can divide his strength on two fronts, it is for us to counter his efforts. The Communist threat is a global one. Its successful advance in one sector threatens the destruction of every other sector. You cannot appease or otherwise surrender to communism in Asia without simultaneously undermining our efforts to halt its advance in Europe.

Beyond pointing out these general truisms, I shall confine my discussion to the general areas of Asia...

While I was not consulted prior to the President's decision to intervene in support of the Republic of Korea, that decision, from a military standpoint, proved a sound one.

As I say, it proved a sound one, as we hurled back the invader and decimated his forces. Our victory was complete, and our objectives within reach, when Red China intervened with numerically superior ground forces.

This created a new war and an entirely new situation, a situation not contemplated when our forces were committed against the North Korean invaders; a situation which called for new decisions in the diplomatic sphere to permit the realistic adjustment of military strategy. Such decisions have not been forthcoming.

While no man in his right mind would advocate sending our ground forces into continental China, and such was never given a thought, the new situation did urgently demand a drastic revision of strategic planning if our political aim was to defeat this new enemy as we had defeated the old.

Apart from the military need, as I saw it, to neutralize the sanctuary protection given the enemy north of the Yalu, I felt that military necessity in the conduct of the war made necessary --

(1) The intensification of our economic blockade against China.

(2) The imposition of a naval blockade against the China coast.

(3) Removal of restrictions on air reconnaissance of China's coastal area and of Manchuria.(指满洲国)

(4) Removal of restrictions on the forces of the republic of China on Formosa,(台湾) with logistical support to contribute to their effective operations against the [COLOR=blue]Chinese mainland. [/COLOR]

For entertaining these views, all professionally designed to support our forces committed to Korea and to bring hostilities to an end with the least possible delay and at a saving of countless American and Allied lives, I have been severely criticized in lay circles, principally abroad, despite my understanding that from a military standpoint the above views have been fully shared in the past by practically every military leader concerned with the Korean campaign, including our own Joint Chiefs of Staff.

I called for reinforcements, but was informed that reinforcements were not available.

I made clear that if not permitted to destroy the enemy built-up bases north of the Yalu, if not permitted to utilize the friendly Chinese force of some six hundred thousand men on Formosa(台湾), if not permitted to blockade the China coast to prevent the Chinese Reds from getting succor from without, and if there were to be no hope of major reinforcements, the position of the command from the military standpoint forbade victory.

We could hold in Korea by constant maneuver and at an approximate area where our supply-line advantages were in balance with the supply-line disadvantages of the enemy, but we could hope at best for only an indecisive campaign with its terrible and constant attrition upon our forces if the enemy utilized his full military potential.

I have constantly called for the new political decisions essential to a solution.

Efforts have been made to distort my position. It has been said in effect that I was a warmonger. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I know war as few other men now living know it, and nothing to me is more revolting.

I have long advocated its complete abolition, as its very destructiveness on both friend and foe has rendered it useless as a means of settling international disputes.

Indeed, on the second day of September, 1945, just following the surrender of the Japanese nation on the battleship Missouri, I formally cautioned as follows: "Men since the beginning of time have sought peace. Various methods through the ages have been attempted to devise an international process to prevent or settle disputes between nations. From the very start workable methods were found in so far as individual citizens were concerned, but the mechanics of an instrumentality of larger international scope have never been successful.

"Military alliances, balances of power, leagues of nations, all in turn failed, leaving the only path to be by way of the crucible of war. The utter destructiveness of war now blocks out this alternative. We have had our last chance. If we will not devise some greater and more equitable system, our Armageddon will be at our door. The problem basically is theological and involves a spiritual recrudescence, an improvement of human character that will synchronize with our almost matchless advances in science, art, literature, and all material and cultural developments of the past two thousand years. It must be of the spirit if we are to save the flesh." But once war is forced upon us, there is no other alternative than to apply every available means to bring it to a swift end. War's very object is victory, not prolonged indecision.

In war there is no substitute for victory.

There are some who for varying reasons would appease Red China. They are blind to history's clear lesson, for history teaches with unmistakable emphasis that appeasement but begets new and bloodier war. It points to no single instance where this end has justified that means, where appeasement had led to more than a sham peace.

我回头会把全文翻译出来,但是以上我标出来的东西应该可以说明这篇文章的目的以及作者对中国看法了,别的地方用他的话也就罢了,但是纪念抗美援朝的士兵用他的话是不是合适?个人感觉可能需要斟酌一下?当然只是我个人的想法罢了。

家园 演讲的下半段,发贴有字数限制,分开了!

Like blackmail, it lays the basis for new and successively greater demands until, as in blackmail, violence becomes the only alternative. Why, my soldiers asked of me, surrender military advantages to an enemy in the field? I could not answer.

Some may say to avoid spread of the conflict into an all-out war with China. Others, to avoid Soviet intervention. Neither explanation seems valid, for China is already engaging with the maximum power it can commit, and the Soviet will not necessarily mesh its actions with our moves. Like a cobra, any new enemy will more likely strike whenever it feels that the relativity in military or other potential is in its favor on a worldwide basis.

The tragedy of Korea is further heightened by the fact that its military action is confined to its territorial limits. It condemns that nation, which it is our purpose to save, to suffer the devastating impact of full naval and air bombardment while the enemy's sanctuaries are fully protected from such attack and devastation.

Of the nations of the world, Korea alone, up to now, is the sole one which has risked its all against communism. The magnificence of the courage and fortitude of the Korean people defies description. They have chosen to risk death rather than slavery. Their last words to me were: "Don't scuttle the Pacific."

I have just left your fighting sons in Korea. They have met all tests there, and I can report to you without reservation that they are splendid in every way.

It was my constant effort to preserve them and end this savage conflict honorably and with the least loss of time and a minimum sacrifice of life. Its growing bloodshed has caused me the deepest anguish and anxiety. Those gallant men will remain often in my thoughts and in my prayers always.

I am closing my fifty-two years of military service. When I joined the army, even before the turn of the century, it was the fulfillment of all my boyish hopes and dreams.

The world has turned over many times since I took the oath on the plain at West Point, and the hopes and dreams have long since vanished, but I still remember the refrain of one of the most popular barracks ballads of that day which proclaimed most proudly that old soldiers never die; they just fade away.

And like the old soldier of that ballad, I now close my military career and just fade away, an old soldier who tried to do his duty as God gave him the light to see that duty. Good-by.

家园 老兵呀~你好走!
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