主题：【杂论】89年难道不就是所谓的革命吗？ -- 坐看风起云涌时

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复大道理不懂得，但柴玲万份之一万的垃圾！

家园

柴是精英

柴是精英，精英就是那样的。这是现在网络上的词语内涵，您可别弄差了。

复柴是精英

家园

呵呵这帮精英真是垃圾中的精英，柴玲是垃圾的精英中的精英

对这帮人，除了冷笑还能怎么样？柴精英最后还是要嫁给洋鬼子然后回来她呼吁要颠覆的政权统治下的国家挖金。纪录片中感觉比较有水平有思想的忘丹原来为了美金给美国干爹卖命。前不久为了新台币给台绿做幕僚。只是不知道这些“精英”们还能混多久？

柴玲戒严夜在不在广场？我只能这样说，纪录片最后的画面中没有柴精英，柴精英在接受国外媒体哦，不是接受，是要求国外媒体对她进行采访的时候哭哭啼啼，呼吁大家战斗到最后一刻，但是又说她不会战斗到最后一刻。那恐怕是整部纪录片中最最恶心的一幕了。柴精英不但是垃圾中的精英，更是无耻之徒中的精英。

复【杂论】89年难道不就是所谓的革命吗？

家园

一个亲历事件的外国记者也在BBC承认当时的报道有问题了

Tiananmen killings: Was the media right?

开头引言

The first draft of history can be crude. Even if the thrust of a story is well described by journalists on the scene, some of its details might need refinement, and sometimes even correction.

Such was the case with the massacre in Beijing on 3 and 4 June, 1989. I was one of the foreign journalists who witnessed the events that night.

We got the story generally right, but on one detail I and others conveyed the wrong impression. There was no massacre on Tiananmen Square.

There were credible reports of several citizens being shot dead during the night on the outer perimeter of the square, but in places which strictly speaking could be said to be outside the square itself.

But we are far less certain of killings on Tiananmen proper. There were probably few, if any.

Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times, who did some admirable detective work in Beijing hospitals in the weeks after the massacre, said in a report published on 21 June 1989 that "it seems plausible that about a dozen soldiers and policemen were killed, along with 400 to 800 civilians".

The standard line now used by foreign journalists is that "hundreds, possibly thousands" died.

大家总算在人数上没争议了。

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家园

引用一段李大钊的话

“王麻子不能因为旺麻子等也来卖刀剪，就闭了他的剪铺。王正大不能因为汪正大等也来贩茶叶，就歇了他的茶庄。开荒的人，不能因为长了杂草毒草，就并善良的谷物花草一齐都收拾了。我们又何能因为安福派也来讲社会主义，就停止了我们正义的宣传!因为有了假冒牌号的人，我们愈发应该，一面宣传我们的主义，一面就种种问题研究实用的方法，好去本着主义作实际的运动，免得阿猫、阿狗、鹦鹉、留声机来混我们骗大家。”

学生运动出了败类，并不能否定学生运动的正义性。看看共产党的一大代表，能因为有了陈公博，周佛海这样的汉奸，就否认毛泽东的伟大？

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