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家园 有高成本和低成本两种:

高成本呢,用重骑兵正面进攻长弓手,轻骑和骑射手包抄传教士和火炮。我曾让100长弓手和100 Paladins 对打,发现开始 游侠会被射倒不少,但一旦两兵相接,便如砍瓜切菜一般。

低成本,就用投矛手加轻骑好了。长弓手,诸葛弩这些兵种都怕投矛手。

家园 能扛得住,其实paladin速度不快,用几个骆驼拥护就够了

老美偏心,长弓手比诸葛弩猛多了

家园 这就要算成本了

这种你的资源是跟不上的。不合算。我对付过。箭飞如雨,速度和射程都太可怕了。

家园 in DM, not the dark age.
家园 等下班我回家试试
家园 其实戳戳海亡命冲锋几乎可以抵抗一切无敌组合,资源还能对付
家园 I only know in DM and method with people

Your method is good in computer, but not for people.

in Zone, siege weapons are prohibited, althoug they are the best to cut longbow. missionary is too slow and too expensive for using. The dirty method for longbow man is called trebbing, but it is prohibited too.

The typical way to defeat longbow is using 投矛手 and paladins alternatively. This works really well for French. Once u build a standing point, use trebs destroy any british castle u can find.

Actually in zone for DM (death Match), people only use british in BF (black forest) because the map. In AR or GR, british is hopeless against French. Because they will be crashed at the begining. You will never have chance to build an army big enough. Even u can do that, in AR it is not good enough to stop paladins.

In DM random mode if u can get british, u are good luck. But in this case, enemy will try to double rush you to stop u, and then u can only hope u have good allies too.

家园 u mean pikeman, right?

they could easily be stopped by champions. if u are talking about rush, the key is never just use one unit. of course if u are playing with people. computer is too stupid to do that.

家园 其实二代如果打成持久战,后期黄金缺乏时戳戳就会变成绝对主力

如果是rush当然是长戟,投矛加弓箭,但打到后期黄金全靠贸易哪有钱造大批paladin呀,而且升好科技的戳戳还是满厉害的,近战不怎么吃亏,对付投射兵吃点亏,但便宜呀

家园 u mean with computer, or people?

with computer it's a problem, but with people, gold should not be a problem. Do u play in zone? if u do, we can try to play there sometime. u will see it's much more fun. 56k modem is good enough.

家园 我的问题是家里电话线接口有问题,上不了网

不过我的经验都来自于和人打,这种游戏和电脑打有什么意思呀。我在网吧和人打的时候有时后来连树都没了,那时投降的一般不是没资源了是实在没乐趣了

家园 sigh

looks like u are in china now. Play in zone is really fun. A lot of expert u can see how good they could be. It is so exciting and intense.

sign, anyone play in zone with aok?

家园 我有一法

蒙古精锐突骑兵。其实是骑射兵,但又能近战

就是从城堡中生产的。

该兵种速度快,打击力度大。灵活,抗打击力强。

所以我会用同样数量的部队破你的阵法。

突骑到面前,远远就可以射你的长弓兵,你的炮阵是在长弓兵后方的,你打不着我,或基本打不着我。

这时候你想用重骑兵来袭击我,但我的速度比你的骑兵快,你的重骑兵也打不着我,我可以比较密集的射翻你的骑兵阵。

然后还有,我可以直接快速突击到你后方,几妙就可以将你的6个小炮干掉。

我甚至怀疑,我直接用骑兵先突击掉你的炮阵如何。当然以上是稳妥的方案。

总之,长弓兵的威力在突骑兵前没有任何优势。

我要是不停走动的话,你的三个兵种最大弱点是移动速度不行。包括重骑兵,比我慢多了。

因此,同样数量的兵,我有把握搞定。当然你周围不能有城堡,炮楼什么的。

至于那两个和尚,属于对付外骑兵后,冲进来打6个小炮时一块收拾。不经打

家园 no, it won't work

They are more expensive and their range is shorter. The best way to destroy longbow without siege is Frank Paladins. If it's AR (arabian), it won't have problem. But if it's in BF, it will be difficult. combined with archer range unit, it's no problem. If u can go to zone, u can see how it works.

家园 同志,我可找到党了

知音阿!我甚至觉得可以用蒙古骑兵对付波斯象兵。

海战的话,西班牙是第一选择。快射炮舰。

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