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    • 家园 巴菲特:经济软着陆是wishful thinking

      As our U.S. trade problems worsen, the probability that the dollar will weaken over time continues

      to be high. I fervently believe in real trade – the more the better for both us and the world. We had about

      $1.44 trillion of this honest-to-God trade in 2006. But the U.S. also had $.76 trillion of pseudo-trade last

      year – imports for which we exchanged no goods or services. (Ponder, for a moment, how commentators

      would describe the situation if our imports were $.76 trillion – a full 6% of GDP – and we had no exports.)

      Making these purchases that weren’t reciprocated by sales, the U.S. necessarily transferred ownership of its

      assets or IOUs to the rest of the world. Like a very wealthy but self-indulgent family, we peeled off a bit of

      what we owned in order to consume more than we produced.

      The U.S. can do a lot of this because we are an extraordinarily rich country that has behaved

      responsibly in the past. The world is therefore willing to accept our bonds, real estate, stocks and

      businesses. And we have a vast store of these to hand over.

      These transfers will have consequences, however. Already the prediction I made last year about

      one fall-out from our spending binge has come true: The “investment income” account of our country –

      positive in every previous year since 1915 – turned negative in 2006. Foreigners now earn more on their

      U.S. investments than we do on our investments abroad. In effect, we’ve used up our bank account and

      turned to our credit card. And, like everyone who gets in hock, the U.S. will now experience “reverse

      compounding” as we pay ever-increasing amounts of interest on interest.

      I want to emphasize that even though our course is unwise, Americans will live better ten or

      twenty years from now than they do today. Per-capita wealth will increase. But our citizens will also be

      forced every year to ship a significant portion of their current production abroad merely to service the cost

      of our huge debtor position. It won’t be pleasant to work part of each day to pay for the over-consumption

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      of your ancestors. I believe that at some point in the future U.S. workers and voters will find this annual

      “tribute” so onerous that there will be a severe political backlash. How that will play out in markets is

      impossible to predict – but to expect a “soft landing” seems like wishful thinking.

      有兴趣看全文的河友可以到这儿下载,上面的文字在第16-17页。

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      • 家园 这个可是个好东西,谢谢了!

        最近的情况看得有些晕,伯克南说经济将温和的增长。格林斯潘就说美国经济开始衰落。有人说老格是为了卖书,有人说老伯经验不足。安省的加油站都没有了,可石油股也不见涨。这两天看了对中国股市的评论,有人说过热调整10%不多,有人说要警惕泡沫。真的是有些晕了。再看看吧。

        • 家园 不要光看这些头面人物在讲什么

          他们讲话各有动机,尤其是Bernake,有托市之嫌。不过这也不是头一回联储局看不准,上次2001年经济已经进入衰退的时候,老格还不知不觉,一个劲说经济没有衰退呢。经济衰退往往到了事后,这帮人才做确认的事情,但是已经晚了。

          • 家园 这两天在看老巴的东西,不错呀。

            他的东西就比较实在了,按我一个朋友的话说就是:“more realistic.”这家伙是个美国白人,奔40的人了。去年在我的引诱劝说下才开始买股票的,买了一种,一直拿着。

            他以前在一家上市公司的财务部门工作,都从来没想过炒股票。想想国内百姓对股票的狂热,我看政府还是对股市的保护太过了。

            越看越觉得这一轮的跌势以成,近期看到的几个经济指标都没有预期的好,不过倒也不至于才不忍睹,就看会不会减息了。我过两天去银行开个可以卖空的户头去。我现在的账户不能从事这类的操作,我买股票是保值,不要被通胀给吃了就行。

            不过现在想试试赚钱。外汇市场不知道飞人兄有没有留意过?我要看看去。


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            • 家园 巴菲特是民间人士

              犯不着给小布什抬轿子,主要是对股东负责,所以讲话有分寸。

              外汇市场原来做过对冲保值,没有直接以赚钱为目的炒外汇,如果要做的话,可以长线看低美元,看高人民币日元欧元。不过要注意风险,不要超出能承受的范围。

    • 家园 本周小结:饿熊啃肥牛

      4年的牛市,连续8个月没有调整的上涨,终于把牛养肥了,也养懒了,走不动道了。结果就是饿得慌慌的熊,绝地大反击,2月27日一口,就咬掉了道琼斯三个月的涨幅:

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      过去5年来,经济差不多走了一个循环,从2001年的萧条,到2003年的复苏,直到2006年都是扩张的好日子,主要是拜房地产市场之赐。然而成也萧何,败也萧何,房地产的过度投资和随之而来的所谓金融创新+carry trade,吹出了一个大泡泡,今天,是为泡沫付出代价的时候了。

      点看全图

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      从此以后,道琼斯是一个不断试探底部的熊市,美国联储局可能会减息刺激经济,可惜美元贬值的风险和滞后的经济反应,不能有效抵挡跌势,而10000点会失守,甚至下探2003年的底部,也就是8000点以下。这个过程可能需要一两年左右的时间才能走完,也就是肥牛养大饿熊的过程。

      世界股市,将跟随美国走入熊市,因为全球的经济会跟随美国走缓,中国也不会例外,在中国股市市盈率已经30多倍的时候,做多是危险的,当然不排除个股还会有亮丽的表现,但是大局将是熊市。

      由于美国乃至全球经济的放缓,各国的贸易争端和相关争端包括汇率等将会增多,变得更加激烈,对中国的经济发展也会构成大的考验。各种地缘政治的争端,可能受此刺激,有增无减。

    • 家园 飞人这几个对象打算玩沽空还是买put?
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