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家园 章诒和不是要说退到民国就好吗？
家园 经过这些年教育，咱们搞将心比心的代入，一般都代入奴隶.. 极少有人去代入奴隶主的..所以你这场景我一想就是地主家歌舞升平，我在他们那里挨打挨骂干脏活累活还吃不饱饭..
家园 感谢：作者获得通宝一枚。说的没有错。想起以前讨论《飘》 来了。也许米切尔写的战前南方美好生活不是虚构：主人勇敢仁慈，黑奴也衷心爱戴主人。可惜的是，小说里面出现的基本都是服侍白人的高等黑奴，就没有看到大田里那些苦力黑奴是什么样的
家园 但是南方最终还是败了，北方打败了南方以后迅速成长为世界 第一。这不是什么感不感情的问题，这是大势。看不清大势只一门心思过小日子，以为自己这种生活方式能延续千秋万代，迟早要被时代所抛弃。
家园 就是就是， 呵呵。 就是就是， 呵呵。 不过， 俺在加国就遇见家里当年是地主老财的，甚至有台湾国民党高官的后代。 呵呵。看问题的视点就完全不一样。
家园 没错，就是身份带入问题 TG几十年的教育的最大成果就是让多数人承认奴隶和奴隶主都是人，从而会根据概率把自己代入为奴隶而不是奴隶主，因而不会喜欢奴隶制。但是对于那些含着金钥匙出生的奴隶主而言，奴隶不是人，因此永远不会把自己代入为奴隶。
多数人大概还是喜欢吃一些肉的，并且认为很好。为什么？因为很少有人会把自己代入为猪羊。我佛慈悲，普渡众生，所以不杀生。
家园 也不全是概率..很多是宣传结果 小时候我们听到的都是白毛女、土改控诉地主、西藏农奴解放之类的阶级教育，虽然很多都是城市长大的，心理上却更加默认这才是同类，而地主则是纸醉金迷的对立者。
正如楼下的那位说的，现在看民国范儿、豪门恩怨电视剧长大的小孩可能对工农的代入感就不如我们那么强了...
家园 作者获得通宝一枚 送花成功。有效送花赞扬。感谢：作者获得通宝一枚。恭喜：你意外获得 8 铢钱。1通宝=16铢
参数变化，作者，声望:1；铢钱:16。你，乐善:1；铢钱:7。本帖花:1
家园 兄弟你可不能这么说啊 像你我这样的人是将心比心把自己代入为地主家的长工、扛活、佣人。可JY们不是这么代入滴，你看看现在的民国电视剧，哪个不是反应英俊潇洒的地主富人家的少爷，善良美丽的贵族小姐，长工、扛活、佣人们都是些背景和工具。所以说嘛，有很多人是一心想退回民国滴。
家园 俺接受不了 俺从小受到的教育是人生而平等，谁也不是谁的奴隶。
何况俺都“起来”了，实在无法认同印度的优越制度。
不过俺希望印度继续优越下去，严重支持全方面对他们的赞美。
家园 身份的问题要解决了 印度已经开建覆盖6亿人的世界最大生物识别系统，买的应该是法国技术。是否能让国家管理上个台阶或者引发社会问题还得师母已呆。按照有人前一段对中国身份证指纹的指控，这个政府把所有国民当成罪犯！
家园 正好也看了这篇。还是相关评论更欢乐。 On paper this scheme is very profitable for Indian, question is how much this will successful on poetical level.Previous record of any scheme show that it never completed or some culprit search loophole and deported it for selfish purpose. I Do Not remember Indian government carried out any agenda successfully up to end.没戏。---印度反体制派
How crude, rude & snooty of your pompous Correspondent to refer to the Indian village folk as "peasants", time & time again. Would he have made such a politically inappropriate gaffe, were he writing something on the English countryside??I doubt it, 'cos he'd be out of a job, the next day, once the uproar dies out!!
If that ain't double standards, then what is?
你这个S13记者敢管村里的父老乡亲叫长工。你ll的。---印度愤青
The UID project is one more of the silly schemes undertaken by the present government in India. We in India, the public and the media, have termed the present Indian government, as “government of scams”.骗子政府 --- 这个多半是印度反对党。
There are 7 billion humans. Each has an individual and identifiable face. This is the archetype model for biometric identification.While much has been made of iris and fingerprints, to an astute observer people differ in just about EVERY attribute. From the vein patterns on the back of a hand to walking and running gait to DNA of saliva to a chest x-ray.
用手背血管的图形，走路的姿势，口水中的DNA，和胸透会比虹膜和指纹更有效。 --- 没切到蛋糕的印度专家
Indians, and i am one of them, are very good with lofty ideals, but ignore reality on the ground. We see enough poor people around, to melt any heart, but still spend over lavishly on weddings, luxury shopping and unnecessary mine is bigger than yours kind of things.为富不仁！--- 印度ngo发言人
It is yet to be seen how useful is the UID in practice, given the track record of the Indian government, it might not be so great.没戏 --- 清醒派
The article does comes out with ideal advantage such identification scheme would bring. However it would also require humongous effort to resolve obdurate Indian Bureaucracy. Another act (RTI) was hailed as great anti corruption measure but even it has been obfuscated and had made only marginal gains in improving the corruption in India.打倒贪官污吏 --- 反体制派
we are a country that takes 2 steps ahead and then 1.5 steps back. But over time the 0.5 steps do matter as long as it is in the direction of a acceptable destination.我们正在向好的方向艰难而缓慢地跋涉 --- 印度大棋党
Better keep those stations where the bio-metrics are scanned manned with real people, otherwise the slums will surely soon see lots of one eyed people with an index finger missing.小心盗用眼球和手指骗取社保的人 --- 这个印度第五代导演？
I found this article interesting and very inspiring. Here is a scheme that could help some of the poorest people around take a step in the right direction and maybe have a better future.However when reading through the comments accumulated so far I became quite dismayed, and was reminded of one of my favourite quotes. So to all you cold and timid souls, read on:。。。Theodore Roosevelt
有趣而激动人心的计划。这里评论的五毛去死吧。伟大的美国总统说过。。。---印度五卢比
家园 不知道有没有具体的资料 因为根据俺的文章中提到只有8百万左右的参加了national population register,也就是另外一个身份认证系统。难道印度还有第三个生物识别系统，这就真是相当的有魄力了。
何况这个UID系统目前最多只被授权覆盖2亿左右的人口。