主题：从四代看我们的工业的赶超道路 -- 桃子甜
家园 靠自己的努力，对知识的渴求 家园 主要还是要感谢党，感谢政府！ 苦其心志，劳其筋骨......
要不这飞机还可说着呢。
家园 杨总这个岁数 未必吃过多少苦头
对他的照顾主要是两点：让他十五岁就可以考大学；让很多比他岁数大几岁的人每天忙于18小时的劳动与工作，没有时间去学习，在考试中给他让路。
当然，在有些人的逻辑里面，这是一盘下了十几年的大棋，是有意识的培养人才，培养以后的航空人才。我就奇怪了，那么那些因为干活没机会读书学习的人，他们是怎么被决定要被淘汰的呢？
家园 77 78 79界大学生是传奇 而传奇的背后是一整代人被剥夺了学习的机会。在有些人眼里，这居然也TMD的是功劳。
家园 相当于十年的精华放在一起用了 反正在有些ID眼里面，杨工文革后上大学的，他的成长是文革的功劳，而中国的科研在文革后的人才断档，这是结束文革造成的。
反正掰呗，嘴皮子翻来翻去谁不会
家园 完全的没有把握上一帖的重点 似乎上一帖问的是那些能够经历文革时期而后成功的人，他们的秘诀在哪里？
就算文革万恶不赎好了。一个人是否成功，不是由外界所决定的，更大的程度上是自己决定的。
怪文革，怪政府，怪社会，怪遍天下，又能成什么事？
最近读过一段文字，摘来给你看一看。
I mused aloud, after I finished rereading A Tale of Two Cities in our little room, half expecting T. and the investigation group to appear in any moment, "I used to have much more sympathy for Madame Defarge than I do now." Madame Defarge, a character in the book who kept knitting as the accused were executed, had been, in my opinion, well justified in her desire to seek revenge against the French aristocracy, but now I began to identify with some of the innocent people whose prosecution she caused."Well, willy," Mother asked me in response to my statement about Madame Defarge, "If you were there and you suffered innocently, then would it mean that the French Revolution was unjustifiable?"
"I suppose not," I replied, hesitantly.
"You would have a choice," she said. "You could cry 'woe is me' and just lie down and die, or if you did survive, you could try to understand and learn from the experience." I was not surprised by what she said. I knew which choice she had made.
家园 怪别人当然成不了事 不过非要说其实是文革培养了他们
也够YY了吧
那些经历过的人还活着呢，还能说话呢，这么早就想着出来用谎言翻案了
文革对高教的破坏，造成的人才断档，别人可以不说，不过不说就代表不存在了？