主题：【原创】萨苏谈抗癌 引子 -- 萨苏
家园 去年也和这个字打了半年多交道 老岳父，去年5月住院，8月去世。病在肺。我因为是家庭中唯一不用上班的人，所以在医院住的时间比他儿子还多。晚期的人，其痛苦,非人......
现在自己看中医学院的教材，希望能帮到家人和自己。我认为人只要起居有节，饮食平衡，注意二便（大便是否便溏/便秘），不生闷气，适当运动（增强阳气，即免疫力），便无大碍。
关键词(Tags): #癌，家园 现在有人在研究 以热疗治疗癌症 301的理疗科就在做这样 的课题
家园 发烧实际上是癌症的一个常见症状 对于一些癌症，发烧会出现在肿瘤早期，特别是那些血液的癌症，白血病，淋巴瘤之类的。几乎所有的肿瘤患者都会有不同程度的发烧，特别是在已经扩散之后，发烧就更加常见。发烧可能是感染引起的，也可能是肿瘤引起的，或者是药物反应，输血也可能导致发烧。
发烧本身对人体就有非常大的危害，温度越高，危害越大。在不了解具体机制和控制方法的情况下，依靠这个方法进行治疗，非常危险。在案例很少，证据不充分的情况下，依据这个来进行什么癌症的判断，就更加危险。
现代科学不能解释的事情很多，但是也不应该因此就把一些个案和普遍规律联系起来。大胆假设当然可以，但是后面需要有小心求证。医药这些重要的事情，真的关乎人命的，还是采取谨慎的态度好一些。
家园 局部热疗治疗癌症确实是有理论研究和临床应用 当年我家领导的论文搞的就是理论方面的研究，综述里提到了相关的临床应用，我还有点应用。
不过这个和发烧确实不太一样。
家园 尽管有争议, 但发烧有可能在短期内促进免疫反应. 发烧本身对人体就有非常大的危害，温度越高，危害越大。There are arguments for and against the usefulness of fever, and the issue is controversial. There are studies using warm-blooded vertebrates and humans in vivo, with some suggesting that they recover more rapidly from infections or critical illness due to fever.
Theoretically, fever can aid in host defense. There are certainly some important immunological reactions that are sped up by temperature, and some pathogens with strict temperature preferences could be hindered. The overall conclusion seems to be that both aggressive treatment of fever and too little fever control can be detrimental. This depends on the clinical situation, so careful assessment is needed.
Fevers may be useful to some extent since they allow the body to reach high temperatures, causing an unbearable environment for some pathogens. White blood cells also rapidly proliferate due to the suitable environment and can also help fight off the harmful pathogens and microbes that invaded the body[citation needed].
Research has demonstrated that fever has several important functions in the healing process:
increased mobility of leukocytes
enhanced leukocytes phagocytosis
endotoxin effects decreased
increased proliferation of T Cells
enhanced activity of interferon
家园 谢谢橡树村
家园 是从什么角度给这篇文章授予精牌的呢？ 我想不会是从文章所含的一些观点本身吧。
家园 我猜阿不是癌细胞怕热 而是发烧引起自身免疫系统的反应。
癌细胞就像我们身体内部叛徒，之所以可怕是因为会欺骗自身免疫系统以为是正常细胞。而一场发烧就像一场自身的免疫系统参加了一场小规模战争，结果免疫系统在打仗的时候发现，咦？刚刚路过那哥们怎么长得贼头贼脑的，不行现在在打仗小心一点过去问问。结果癌细胞就暴露了。
所以不仅发烧会偶尔治愈癌症，得其他疾病也会偶尔治愈癌症。记得小时候！我看到那本科学杂志就记录了国外几例感染传染病却治好癌症的病例。
家园 真希望能“烧一次，顶几年”，但查到的结论正好相反 2005年丹麦科学家追踪了43,205个因不明原因发烧就医的病人，发现他们一年内生癌的几率要比正常人群高而不是低。
[贴子发出后，牛腰网友指出：
论文里没有说发烧对癌本身有没有治疗效果这我同意。所以把原来的题目“真希望这么简单的方法能有用。但查到的结论正好相反”改了。我想强调的是，如果你象老萨的编辑朋友那样因不明原因发烧，千万不要以为以后几年生癌的可能性极小而麻痹大意。根据这篇文献的结论，你生癌的几率要比正常人群高而不是低，所以应该尽快去医院检查。]
摘要：
Lancet Oncol. 2005 Nov;6(11):851-5. Epub 2005 Sep 28.
Fever of unknown origin and cancer: a population-based study.
Srensen HT, Mellemkjaer L, Skriver MV, Johnsen SP, Nrgrd B, Olsen JH, Baron JA.
Department of Clinical Epidemiology, Aarhus University Hospital, Aarhus, Denmark. [email protected]
BACKGROUND: Fever of unknown origin is associated with cancer, but the tumour types most commonly involved and the prognostic implications of this relation have not been studied. We aimed to assess the risk of cancer and survival after hospital admission for fever of unknown origin in a nationwide Danish follow-up study. METHODS: We linked the Danish national registry of patients and the nationwide cancer registry, and assessed cancer risk for 43,205 patients discharged for the first time from Danish hospitals after admission for fever of unknown origin during 1977-97. We compared cancer frequency with that expected on the basis of cancer incidence in the general population, and survival of patients with cancer who had had fever of unknown origin with that of controls (ie, patients with cancer matched for cancer site, age at time of cancer diagnosis, and year of cancer diagnosis). FINDINGS: Median follow-up was 6.3 years (IQR 2.7-12.3). During the first year of follow-up, 399 cancers were diagnosed in those who had had fever of unknown origin (standardised incidence ratio 2.3 [95% CI 2.1-2.5]). These individuals had an increased risk of developing cancer--in particular haematological malignant disease; sarcoma; and cancers of the liver, brain, kidney, colon, and pancreas. After 1 year of follow-up, individuals had an increased risk of developing haematological malignant disease and cancers of the liver, brain, and kidney. A slightly higher proportion of people diagnosed with cancer within 1 year of hospital discharge after fever of unknown origin had distant metastases compared with controls (101 [34%] of 294 vs 819 [28%] of 2907; prevalence ratio 1.2 [95% CI 1.0-1.4], and had worse survival than did controls (mortality rate ratio 1.4 [95% CI 1.2-1.6]). INTERPRETATION: Hospital admission for fever of unknown origin is a marker of occult cancer and is associated with a poor outlook.
家园 两码事 老萨说的是如果已经有癌，发烧可以抑制或消灭癌细胞。
你引用的论文说的是由于不明原因发烧的人相对于普通人来说更容易被诊断出得癌。如果不明原因发烧是人体对已经存在的癌细胞的反应，那么发烧的人一年后被诊断得癌的比例较高就很自然了。我对这篇论文的理解是不明原因发烧可能是癌的早期症状，可以用来帮助诊断，但是论文里没有说发烧对癌本身有没有治疗效果。
就好比如果有一篇论文说发烧的人被发现受病毒/病菌感染的比例比正常人要高（这个没什么争议吧），我们不能根据这篇论文得出发烧对治疗感染无用的结论。