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主题:【原创】加拿大的政府能帮天朝公司作什么? -- oiler2

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        • 家园 尤尼科

          中海油想竞购来着,后来觉得通不过美国政府的审查,放弃了

          • 家园 如果公司甲想收购一个公司乙

            甲在没有通知乙的时候,就先通知媒体,乙从新闻里看见甲的报价,然后甲还对这媒体放话,还不断提价,乙只有看热闹的份,偏遇上最爱出风头的一群人民代表丙们,为了吸引眼球,丙们放声要阻止甲对乙的吞并。甲然后顺坡下驴,声明不再收购乙,并吧所有的过错都归到始终没有表态的政府丁上。然后甲把自己拌成受害者,到处忽悠愤青。

    • 家园 有道理。没看到这个行内人写的帖子,还就信了新闻了。
    • 家园 这样的政府官员似乎更符合我们的日常感受

      万里风中虎 说的前三排人员了解全部细节(大意),

      葡萄 说的那帮人精,下一盘很大的棋

      这种说法我总觉得半信半疑,他们有这么牛么?

      或许看到的各是一个侧面吧

      这应该也是西西河的好处

    • 家园 油兄是指这个新闻吧

      6月29日,中国商务部网站发表一份公告称,中国最大的石油公司中国石油天然气集团公司(以下简称“中石油”)获得了加拿大阿尔伯塔省油砂矿开采权。这是中国企业首次获准在加拿大主持开发油砂项目,被认为是中国能源企业在加拿大这个全球第二大油砂储量国迈出的“一大步”。

      相隔两周的7月12日,中石油副总裁宋亦武在加拿大阿尔伯塔省卡尔加里市举行的一项投资会议上表示,中石油已决定放弃参与加拿大安桥公司(Enbridge Inc.)提议修建的门户(Gateway)输油管道项目。理由是加拿大政府并未全力推动这项价值四十亿加元的门户油管计划,而该项计划在加拿大的业界也支持不足,结果一拖再拖。

      “我们已经厌倦等待了”,言语中宋亦武显得有些无奈,中国也希望能帮助加拿大原油打开新市场,但“加拿大也始终不愿开放市场让中国进入,因此我方无法合作,也不知道还能如何帮忙”。

      门户输油管计划是由总公司设在卡尔加里的安桥公司推动,预计完工后可把阿省油砂矿所产原油,运至卑诗省太平洋口岸出口,每日输运量可达四十万桶。中石油曾与安桥达成原则性协议,门户输油管计划完成后,中石油承诺购买其中一半输运量。

      不过,该项计划的完工日期一改再改,原本计划于2009年投产,并考虑将加拿大石油输往亚洲市场。但航运公司却更为关注美国不断增长的原油需求,对开发新的对美输油管道更感兴趣,因而该计划被迫延期至2012至2014年。

      宋亦武也同时指责加拿大石油业者不愿开放让中国企业进入加拿大国内市场,也始终不愿把更多原油交付这条新输油管,使得市场始终无法达到经济规模。另外,在该管道预定兴建的路线上还有原住民土地所有权的争议,更为该项目平添了不稳定的因素。

      尽管如此,中石油并未因此全面退出加拿大。今年1月份,中石油已在阿尔伯塔省取得11块油砂田的开采权,总面积达258.6平方公里,预计沥青含量将达到200万桶。

      然而,这次中石油事件再次为中国企业进军加拿大蒙上阴影。近年来,试图在枫叶之国抢滩登陆的中国军团并非第一次折戟沉沙了。

      • 家园 这个,原话更难听

        CALGARY - China has abandoned its Canadian energy strategy out of frustration with federal policy and with the country’s oilsands producers, turning its attention instead to “friendly Venezuela” as a way to feed new Chinese refineries.

        A senior executive with state-owned China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC), Asia’s largest company, said CNPC has scrapped its involvement in a $4-billion Gateway pipeline project with Enbridge Inc. that was to move oilsands crude from Alberta to the British Columbia coast by about 2014.

        Yiwu Song, vice-president of CNPC International, also said China decided in January to “slow down” its involvement in the Canadian oilsands business.

        “We’re waiting for better investment policies and political-friendly opportunities coming in the future,” Mr. Song said outside a TD Newcrest oilsands forum in Calgary.

        He said that during the next five years, China’s imports of heavy oil from Venezuela will grow to 600,000 barrels a day, volumes that will be used to feed two new upgraders, refining-like facilities that process heavy grades of oil such as those found in Venezuela and in Canada’s oilsands, into refinery-ready feedstock.

        CNPC had hoped Canada would some day account for half those volumes, although Mr. Song voiced frustration at the same investor event a year ago about his company’s lack of success in executing any significant deals.

        The integrated oil company wanted to exchange access to its refining capacity and Chinese markets for reserves and up-stream production.

        Canada’s loss — its chance to develop new oil markets outside of the United States — is Venezuela’s gain, Mr. Song said yesterday.

        “Fortunately, Venezuelan President [Hugo] Chavez is so warmhearted — there’s a difference in attitude,” he said of the political strongman in Venezuela, a country from which oil companies are now fleeing.

        “Yes, there are some ideological issues here, and if your people don’t change your minds and be more inviting to us ? China will always open its door for Canada.”

        He said China tipped its hand about a growing wariness of Canada in January, surprisingly via CNPC’s purchase of 258.6 square kilometres of oilsands acreage, land CNPC said could hold two-billion barrels of resource.

        “The media here said it was the Chinese coming. But actually, that was the turning point of our policy,” he said, adding those lands would not produce oil for at least 10 years.

        He blamed the Stephen Harper government for not doing more to facilitate Chinese-Canada trade in energy and also said the Liberal government of Paul Martin was more inviting to the Chinese.

        Canada’s Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn, a speaker at the same oilsands forum, said Ottawa is doing its bit to encourage trade in energy between the two countries.

        Mr. Song was also critical of how long it takes getting approvals for major projects in Canada, suggesting that is why CNPC has decided it will not pursue the Gateway pipeline project with Enbridge, which at one point said it wanted equity partners to share up to 50% of the project.

        PetroChina–a CNPC subsidiary — was going to be the primary customer for oil shipped on the line and Enbridge was going to facilitate supply deals between it and Canadian producers.

        Canadian producers have so far done deals in the United States and last year Enbridge deferred building the project so it could focus on ways to move growing output from the oilsands south.

        Enbridge spokesman Glenn Herchak said the Calgary-based pipeline company had not heard before yesterday that CNPC was no longer interested in pursing Gateway.

        “The memorandum of understanding we signed with Petro-China did lay the groundwork for further discussions to move the project forward, but we’ve always said the details were confidential,” Mr. Herchak said.

        “While China could be a market for Gateway volumes, other Asia Pacific markets and California are other potential markets. We’re in discussions with others, including Canadian oilsands producers and refiners in California and offshore.”

      • 家园 天朝政府好啊

        至少拆迁的时候能出力啊, 先找强迁公司出力, 然后法院再搞一个不受理。

    • 家园 跟铁矿石一个样

      必拓,必和必拓在国内都有公司,里面的同胞不说本事多大吧,至少对鬼子们的招数知根知底。一哥们在里面上班,看着咱们年年吃大亏,说宝钢随便来挖几个人,绝对比那帮老爷们去谈强的多。现在真正的土八路,都是民营了。

    • 家园 特别是国营企业的人如此

      特别是政府机构,国有垄断企业的人,平时被政府领导们蹂躏惯了,出去每人管了就不习惯了。

      一个疑问,关于海外石油市场,西方是不是也是对中国有所压制呢?所以做起事情来比日本,南韩困难些?

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