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simeon2

Call in thesenators who voted out the Americans.

传唤那些投票把美国人赶出去的那些议员们。

mr dt

How i wish usa base is back even 1 us base in palawan or in subic should have preventedthese communist chinese invasion and believe me this will not stop the chinesecommunist from incresing its bullying in west philippine sea---- change backthe 1985 constitution and bing 1 us base back to philippine soil

Beijing makesmanila miss its u.s. Bases

Bring back 1 usabase to philippine islands

Estrada is aleader who have no foresight by voting to kick out us base

how can any philippine leader kick out usa base without strethening its navyassets & army -

我多么希望美军基地重新回来,美军在巴拉望岛或者苏比克湾的基地能够阻止CCP的入侵。但是相信我,现在改回1985年宪法并让美军基地重返菲律宾已经无法阻止CCP在南海的恐吓了。

北京让马尼拉失去了它的美军基地,应该让美军基地重返菲律宾。

埃斯特拉达投票赶走美军基地证明他毫无远见。

在没有增强自身海军及军事实力的前提下,菲律宾领导人怎么能够赶走美军基地呢?

simeon2

CALL IN THESENATORS WHO VOTED THE AMERICANS OUT...WHERE ARE THEY NOW!!!

传唤那些投票把美国人赶出去的那些议员们……他们现在躲哪去了!!!

mr dt

1991 senators comeout of your hiding -- Philippine have been losing territories since 1995from the red chinese by kicking out usa base ??? 1991 lowbrain power nationalists senators like estrada have the LOWEST IQ ----kicking out USA BASE, you make PHILIPPINE Security OPEN WIDE FREE fora TAKING by a SUPERPOWER ASIAN Neighbor

1991年投票的议员们给我滚出来。因为赶走了美军基地,菲律宾1995年以来就被赤色中国侵占领土。1991年像埃斯特拉达这样弱智的民族主义议员们赶走了美军基地,你让菲律宾国防安全门户洞开并引起了亚洲强有力邻国的兴趣了。

mr dt

RED CHINESEINVASION BY AIR AND SEA ONLY

Philippine need5000 Torpedo Boat & 7000 Torpedo Jetskis and 10,000 Torpedo Banca will stopred chinese invasion

Invasion by AIR

Philippine willneed 500,000 volunteers plus Philippine army m-16 to stop red chineseparatroopers volunteers will be train using arrows and long sharpen bamboostick and bolo

赤色中国只能从海空中入侵。

5000艘鱼雷艇、7000艘鱼雷摩托小艇和其他10000艘鱼雷艇将能够阻止赤色中国的入侵。

空中入侵的话,菲律宾需要50万名携带菲律宾军用M-16枪支的志愿者来对付赤色中国的伞兵。这些志愿者要学习使用弓箭、削尖的长竹棍和大砍刀。

breakitdown420

how hard is it toconvince the 90+ million filipinos living here to get to work and build somegunboats? tell the politicians to stop putting money into their own pockets anduse the money to build a fleet of vessels to defend the philippines. where isthe leadership??? maybe the chinese can lead the philippines moreeffiently if the filipino politicians cannot

9000多万生活在这片土地上的菲律宾人努力工作并建造炮艇有那么难吗?告诉那些政客不要把钱放进自己的口袋,用这些钱造舰队来保卫菲律宾。领导人都在哪??如果菲律宾政客做不到的话,我想可能中国人能更好地领导菲律宾人。

Will Rey

At this time it isan exercise in futility to call for a restoration of U.S. bases in thePhilippines. Obama does not have the balls to stand up to China, especiallyduring the presidential campaign. If the Philippines really wants helpin repelling China's expansionist aims in the West Philippine Sea, prayor, better still, help promote Romney's candidacy for the American presidency.Romney will restore American exceptionalism in that region of the world.

这个时候喊着让美军基地重回菲律宾无济于事。奥巴马没种和中国叫板,尤其现在又是在总统竞选期间。如果菲律宾想要有人帮忙来击退中国在南海的扩展企图,那就祈祷,或者更好的办法是投票支持罗姆尼竞选总统。罗姆尼将在这个区域重提美国优越论(例外主义)。

simeon2

Hey Rey, you sound like Estrada...

你说的很像埃斯特拉达。

Will Rey

I don't know what Estrada said that sounds just like whatI said. What I mean to say is that if the Philippines really wants U.S.military bases or aid, the chances that U.S. will honor the termsof the Philippine-U.S. Mutual Aid Treaty are infinitely better if Romney or a Republican is the president of the U.S.

我不知道埃斯特拉达的那句话说得像我刚才说的那句。我想说的事,如果菲律宾震得像要美军基地重回或者美国的帮助,那罗姆尼或者共和党人当选总统的话,美国履行美菲共同防御协定的可能性会更大。

Paul_Fivens

Tell me how the restoration of US bases in thePhilippines will help? You think if war errupt between Philippines andChina US will move? If by 'accident' China hit one of US ships in theirbases in the Philippines, it will be just an 'accident' and US will accept thatbut it will not go to war with China for that reason alone.

告诉我,美军基地重回菲律宾能起到什么作用?你认为中菲开战美国会介入?如果中国“意外”击中美国在菲律宾基地的一艘船只,这仅仅就是个“意外”,美国会接受并不会就因这个原因和中国开战。

Will Rey

P.S. Worry not about the Chinese ships patrolling theScarborough Shoal. They are merely a show of force designed to intimidate theFilipinos into a tacit acceptance of China's claim to sovereignty overthe area. What we have to worry about most is the deafening silenceof the professional protesters, politicians and their supporters alike,at the tense standoff in the Shoal. God help the Philippinesif our influential political leaders are already in the money orpower bag for China and are quietly humming the tune of the Chinese drummer.

还有,担心的不只是中国船只在黄岩岛区域巡逻,这只不过是他们企图强迫菲律宾默认中国整个海洋权益主张的一次武力炫耀。我们更应该担心的是在这次黄岩岛紧张对峙中,抗议者、政客和他们支持者的装聋作哑。如果我们手掌大权的政治领导人已经被中国的金钱或者权势所吸引,投靠中国阵营的话(译注:直译就是偷偷唱着中国鼓手的调子了,我觉得这种翻译方式是否可取值得商榷),那只有上帝能够帮助我们了。

Martin

If they barFilipinos fishers, then let's bar the Chinese in the Philippines.

如果他们禁止菲律宾渔民(进入黄岩岛海域),那我们就禁止中国人来菲律宾。

diverme

And of coursethere is nothing we can do about it. Thats the honest truth...we neither havethe military means or the economic weapons to do something about this. Even theUS wont help us in this matter. In the end wala talaga tayo magawa and its allour fault

很显然我们对此无计可施,这就是事实……我们既没有军事手段也没有经济手段。美国都不愿意在这件事上帮我们。最后……而这一切都会成为我们的错。

rudyd

might as well givethe shoals to the chinese coz the phil government is not doing anything anyway,they're just watching the chinese govt take over that shoals.

除了把黄岩岛让给中国表亲之外,菲律宾政府什么都没做。他们就眼睁睁看着中国政府霸占了黄岩岛。

Abe Smith

How do you give away something you don't own?

不属于你自己的东西,你怎么放弃?

rudyd

so wtf they're wasting time yapping around if that's notphil territory then?

如果那不是菲律宾的领土的话,那他们(中国)在那废什么话?

Abe Smith

China willcapitulate if the Filipinos stop selling Bananas to them. You know how muchChinese like Filipinos bananas. :)

如果菲律宾停止向中国出售香蕉的话,中国会立马投降。你要知道中国人有多喜欢菲律宾香蕉。笑

thomas

deport chinese, nationalizechinese assets

驱逐中国人,没收他们的财产。

Victoria

thomas, most of the Chinese in the Philippinesholds Philippine citizenship.They have the right to live in the country. Ourprotests should start by banning Made In China products. Support our productsinstead, and/or start supporting Made in Vietnam, Thailand, and otherASEAN counties. It will work, and the environment is better off too, withoutthe Made in China cr_p! People Power against Chinese products!

楼主,大部分在菲中国人都有菲律宾国籍。他们有权在这个国家生存,我们的抗议应该首先抵制中国货。支持我们自己的国产替代品,或者以从越南泰国以及其他东盟国家的进口来代替。这会起作用的,而且没有垃圾中国货环境也会变得更好!让我们团结起来对抗中国货吧!

MagicQuad

Ban anything imported from china! Total embargonow!

禁止任何从中国的进口!现在开始彻底地禁运!

TUBAGBOHOL.com

Where are the 12Philippine Senators who kicked out the US Military Base?

那些提议撤销美国军事基地的12位菲律宾议员们跑哪去了?

joanne

show your faces senators.. now you know what you've done

出来让大家看看……现在你知道你做的是什么了。

EVILCOUPLE

We already lostthey will build garrison on that island, the government must protest to theintl court or to the UN.

我们已经输了,他们会再岛上驻防,政府应该向国际法院或者联合国提告。

WAJ

Take this problemto the UN. Who is the PI representative anyway.

把这个问题提交联合国。菲律宾驻联合国代表干什么吃的。

Earl

The best thing todo, is also to pressure the chinese businessmen taking advantage of our market.

最好的办法就是:向那些从我们市场获利的中国商人施压。

JaDee P

p*tang ina mgaPulitiko kayo!

操政客他X。

Juan

If they bar ourfishers in our own waters then it's time to bar chinese businessman from miningin the Philippines. They had a lot of illegal miners here, the problem is thatthey bribe local politician. . The National Government should look at thismatters and imposed stricter rules if not put all the requirement unto them tostop them from exploiting our resources. . Pahirapan nating silang kumuha ngpermit. .

如果他们禁止我们的渔民进入我们自己的水域,那我们就应该禁止在菲律宾采矿的中国商人。有很多中国人在菲律宾非法采矿,问题就在于他们向当地政客们行贿了。国家政府应该正视这个问题并颁布严格的法律阻止他们开采我们的资源。不给他们颁布许可证。

John Sulayman

This is stupid.Don't you communists have enough land and water? We only have a few coast guardboats monitoring the area and they claim that we're the ones whoare aggravating the tension when it is they who send 32 ships to ourwaters just to show whatever point they wish to show and deny us our rights tofish and explore?

And yet they'reAFRAID to go to the ITLOS just to justify their claims to the waters, whichjust goes to show that they know that they are going to lose this battle ofdiplomacy and would rather resort to INTIMIDATION when they want to claim whatthey think and imagine is rightfully theirs.

这太愚蠢了。CCP有满足的时候吗?我们只有一些海岸警卫的船只在监控该区域,而他们还说我们是加剧紧张局势的一方。而与此同时他们往我们水域派了32艘船只为所欲为,并且否认我们捕鱼和生产的权利?

而且他们也不敢在国际法庭冲裁他们的主权主张,这表明它们清楚他们将会在外交战线中失败,因此他们在声索他们想象和认为是属于他们的时候宁愿诉诸恐吓手段。

blue4cor

Scarborough Shoalswill stay forever in our seas. There is no technology that can transfer oneplace to another location.

黄岩岛永远属于我们。这点永远也不会改变。

kapitanBagwis

Prayer warriors,start a prayer rally sincerely asking the Almighty God to intercede and send these Chinese back where they belong.

为勇士们祈祷,我们真诚地祈祷,让全能的上帝帮助我们,让中国人回到属于他们的地盘。

INQ_reader

I'm confused whatthe Chinese expect from this show of numbers. Do they expect the PhilippineCoast Guard to fold up? Do they expect to world opinion to side with them, andagainst the Philippines?

中国派出这么多船只我很不解。他们想要菲律宾海岸警卫队让步?他们希望世界舆论站到他们那边并反对菲律宾。

SimounIbarra

Yes and No.

Yes - They expect us to fold.

No - They don't want this escalating to International sensation.

说对了一半。

对的:他们想要我们让步。

不对:他们不想搞得尽人皆知。

Margie

It is time tobuild our own ships. We should put budget into it and try to use all availableresources we have.

应该打造我们自己的船只了。我们应该投入预算并用上我们所有可能的资源。

Tsinoy Texas Boy

hey dude dont be too selfish

你别这么自私。

bahog_itlog

My helplessmotherland is raped by her neighbor for the world to see.

我那无助的祖国被她的邻居当着全世界的面强暴。

Mario_Garcia

That is what weget from creating a lot of noise, we should have settled the matter silentlyand seek to gain something from it. Our futile cries here will serve nofurther good to our current situation. Let the wisdom of our governmentofficials handle this for now.

这就是我们闹哄哄所取得的成效,我们应该安静地解决该问题然后寻求获得些什么。对于我们当前的处境来说,无效的哭喊无济于事。我们政府官员的智慧发挥出来解决此事。

前面因为字数限制,美国贴完。这里续上。

可以看得出来,大部分那些菲律宾人爱菲律宾之心,跟我们爱中国之心,没有两样。知识菲律宾果力较弱,给人感觉有些无可奈何罢了。可见国际之间,实力才是一切的决定因素。

比较有趣的是,里面还有人呼喊要把美军重新请回菲律宾。这些人可以称为菲律宾的带路党了吧。当然也有清醒者说,请回来也没用,美军根本不会为了帮助菲律宾而跟中国打仗。

要我说,还不如把这军事基地给中国,然后中菲两国和好,共同开发利用黄岩岛。效果还更好。

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