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家园 又要提问,葡萄兄莫怪。

主要想把问题弄清楚。

全世界的环境保护运动都是从民间发起的,而我们反之。

并不是一件好事。说明我们的民间组织太弱。环保是非常有争议性的话题,方方面面的利益牵扯很复杂,而且没有绝对的谁对谁错,由政府牵头不是好主意。在环保方面,政府在环保组织和工业组织之间应该扮演裁决者,那样才容易维护威信,且立场灵活。

我们那位敬爱的环保副局长并没有与他调门相称的学识和能力,从圆明园一案的所作所为就可以证明他不过是个政客。水库的事是各方面利益博弈的结果,环保只是名义而已。

家园 感谢你才是,这样的讨论才是我需要的

我想不清楚利害关系首先是我们中间的很多人,很多年前,我在沿海一带为自己的事业奔波.在有些村落,来自海外的洋垃圾在那里拆卸,这个是很多假冒伪劣商品的源头.不知道你怎么理解我当时的感受,那是最著名的鱼米之乡,但是我在村庄外面就闻到浓浓的酸味.在潮湿的时候,在那些地下工厂第一次进去的人也许会被刺激的算味弄的直流眼泪.看着面带喜色的村民,我无言以对.过多少年后,从公开报道里知道有些地方的污染仅仅靠自然来消化我们需要120年的时间.看着当地,女人抱着有各种先天性疾病的孩子.看者地下工厂的老板一家因为被污染的水源而患上绝症的时候,我想不能仅仅把问题归类到没有素质的某局长身上.

你知道一节电池的污染么,一节普通含汞电池能损坏一平方米的土地,一节纽扣电池可对数十万升水造成污染。作为世界最大的电池消费国,我国每年产生数量庞大的废电池。而你我身边有身能做到垃圾分类处理么,家门口的小区分类垃圾箱静无声息在那里几年了,至少我没有看见里面有一节废弃电池.

我想说的是,我们自己的利益我们不主张,没有人为我们主张.

家园 其实在主流媒体与学者面前何尝不是另一种锁国
家园 就我的观感来说,和台湾人比较

文化传统他们更浓厚一点。当然面对台湾问题就陷入了悲情情结。我们当今文化上的消沉,和文化大革命以及那次风波直接相关。同意你所说的文化危机:我们正在面临文化的空洞化,但问题的解不在政府手里,也不在"捍卫"传统文化上面。文化是不能通过捍卫来发展的。一方面要开放心灵,一方面要保持自己的本征,很难。我不知道该如何做,但从不同的方向探讨发展的道路,是我们的责任。

家园 这个问题还是问问自己吧
家园 呵呵,看新章节吧
家园 我对那位老兄的反感来自于他的工作态度。

环保是一门科学,是一门踏踏实实的工作,还会得罪人。他到好,什么耸人听闻说什么,什么能吸引眼球说什么。等他被别人用事实修理得满头是包的时候,不仅他丢人,环保事业也损失信誉。像你所说的事情我也有耳闻,但正确的方法是取证,写出没有破绽,符合事实的报告来。环保的敌人很强大,而且符合发展的大方向,一点点破绽都会被人抓住。他老人家倒好,什么有响儿奔哪儿去,一点调研都没有就满嘴跑火车,抢的就是政治分,根本是环保事业的害虫。

家园 (九)读一些中国文化可否

日闻一事,日知一事;日读一言,日增一言。

文化是一个民族存在的根!一个没有高科技的民族在战争中可能会一战而败,可一个没有优良文化传统的民族,会不战而灭!!一个对自己的文化无法产生认同感与自豪的民族是没有希望的民族,一个失去自己文化灵魂的民族不知道可以算什么民族!!!世界上不存在不可能灭亡的国家,国家灭亡了可以重建,但是一个被消灭了文化的民族呢?历史上多少民族失去文化的根基而湮灭在浩瀚历史长河,现在没有哪个民族以没有自己文化而感到由衷的自豪的,起码至今为止幸存于现在世界上的所有民族没有。

本人才疏学浅,实在是一句老实话。说来惭愧记得当年我考语文的时候标题是《过犹不及》,后来参与阅卷(打工)查看自己的作文得了19分,为什么?请看评语--文字可以,离题万里。(后来参考语文评分标准,19分是离题作文可以评的最高分)。到了第二年,一篇《惟有源头活水来》的命题作文让多数学子都翻了船,为此南方的某大报还写过专题评论。

再后来,到南京中山陵旅游有一件事情给我刺激很大。在去中山陵的路上我结识了一个德国人,一口京片子漂亮极了。他给我讲论语和老庄之美,叹唐诗宋词的壮阔与迤俪。。。从此我开始努力探询中国文化的灵魂。

我的朋友游览尤卡坦半岛后讲过,尤卡坦还有玛雅人,不过除了表演和卖些手工艺品就真的什么也不会作了。我时时记起我们的国歌:。。。中华民族到了最危险的时候。。。全世界的列强现在都在用放大镜和显微镜并用锋利的手术刀刨析着中国,而中国人现在却用望远镜来省事自己与全世界,而且还是反过来看的。

记得年初网友口水兽有一篇文章叫《新邯郸学步》什么意思?怕咱们连自己原来的路都不会走,恐怕要爬着回老家。我说,站好了兄弟,站稳了要有脚后跟啊。

有个小网友讲和平是暂时的,利益是永恒的。那个是小孩子就不多说什么了。现在的年青人,言必称利。难道只继承可以赢利的吗?什么是利益,什么可以赢利,现在有几个人真正明白???中医如果没有非典,快被扫地出国门了吧。现在最好的丝绸是在意大利,英国瓷器在上海要卖80000人民币/件还要排队预约。上海现在市面上最好的小油豆腐和豆腐都是日资企业生产的,现在欧美都知道豆腐是最营养和美味的日本发明的食品。上海的顾绣已经失传了,百年前的顾绣精品现在在海外有的会炒到百万港币以上/件。现在的人,除了会炒外国人的冷饭还会做什么,中国自己的东西也不例外。

有继承才会有扬弃,才会求新求变求发展,这个是我的观点。打好扎实的文字功底,不论是对今后的学习与工作有极大的好处就是对理解我们国家的伟大文明有着极大的好处。不懂中国文字之美,难以体会中国文化之博大精深,就难以为自己的祖国产生由衷的自豪。看到绛霖关于在俄罗斯的一些记闻我深深感到俄罗斯民族坚强与坚韧的一面,感到中国人对保护自己民族的文化遗产有着许多不足。本人才疏学浅,但也想为吸引年轻人来感受中国文化做一些事情。

中国文化重在微言大义,一字一句常常都有非常深刻的人文价值和文化精髓。中国的道用现代汉语如何解释?feudalism 和封建是一回事情吗?文化存在与否是一个民族存在与否重要标志之一。有继承才会有扬弃,才会求新求变求发展。既然老东西都是酸的可以不要,那么中国的什么都可以不要了,难怪有人鼓吹拼音文字来替代汉字。

自孔家店打倒以来数十年,期间风雨自不必多说,成就有目共睹。不过现在在我看来,有些矫枉过正了。我的时代,古文只是考试的必须。中国传统文化的式威,造就了现今大批“哈”族。我的表弟的文史知识另我实在担忧,四大名著自不会读。如果不是放《屠龙刀》,他还以为朱元璋是哪个不知名的小明星。所以我当时把中国朝代表编成用广东话发音的诗歌,逼他背诵。。。

韩国的大筒裤子是古代韩国民族服饰的变种,西方的流行摇滚与巴赫一脉相承。中华振兴需要不断的补充新鲜血液,但是需要补充什么则是值得思量的问题。现在的年轻人言必称利益,可是有谁懂得利益,什么是在未来产生利益,美国人让只看中眼前利益的日本吃尽苦头。日本可以选择吗?所谓棋错一招,随后步步受制于人。这棋错在何处?什么叫做利益!!! 忘记自己名字的人不会怀有希望,同样忘记自身根本的民族迟早会消失在时的潮流里。

我同意古德里安网友---在心为志出言为诗,诗歌是抒发胸臆之物的看法。不过再无形的东西都要有实在的表达,诗歌就是其中之一。我个人以为,中国文化至今尚存的一个要素就是:与时具进,求新求变。过去纯粹为应付科举的诗词格律,虽未必可取但是毕竟是多少年千锤百炼的成就,只因格律已死就弃之我看是有些因噎废食了。现在看小公主说已经有小孩子喜欢这个,而且还不是一个两个。为什么?因为我的国家开始逐渐强盛,孩子们已经自觉不自觉的开始探询中国文化的灵魂。或许方法上有所与古兄见解不一直,但是只要是他(她)们自己出于自己内心的探求有何不可。这个不就是古兄所说的:在心为志出言为诗,诗歌是抒发胸臆之物吗?也许这个并不是诗歌的复生,而是新生。由此肇始,未尝不是中国文化的新生呢?中国的历史兴替,文化、民族几起几落几落几起。每一次的复兴,中国文化、中华民族就走上一个新的辉煌。前人可以,我们为什么不可以,年轻人有何不可,小孩子有何不妥?

我想说的是,现在需要重新审视中国自己的文化。从哪里开始并不重要,重要的是有个开始。从哪里开始,从自己感兴趣开始,从自己感兴趣研究开始,从自己感兴趣研究问题开始,从自己感兴趣研究问题并开始解决问题开始。比如国画与书法,虽然画不必宋、元、明、清,书不必颜、柳;但是搭上桌子摆上笔墨纸砚我看还是有必要的。古兄既然已经提出问题,是否大家一起来解决古诗歌的与时代相契合的新生方法。我以为礼乐可闻,礼教不必,不知大家以为如何。

文化的继承不仅仅是翻出来掸掸灰尘,晒晒太阳,而应该在旧释的基础上注入新解,否则我们以后的后人又继承什么呢?文化历史表明一种文化总会失去一些宝贵的古董,但同时也会得到一些意想不到的灵芝。

只要人类存在的一天,人类现有的一切都会被超越。如果你、我、他,都无法有超越前人的决心与勇气,中国就一天不会强大,不会走到振兴的的新高峰,诸位为我们的民族、国家还有我们自己一起努力吧。

读一些中国文化可否。


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家园 呵呵,什么样的领导什么样的下属,你再品品毛泽东与白求恩如何
家园 【注意】民族为民众存在,还是民众为了民族而活

文化是一个民族存在的根!一个没有高科技的民族在战争中可能会一战而败,可一个没有优良文化传统的民族,会不战而灭!!一个对自己的文化无法产生认同感与自豪的民族是没有希望的民族,一个失去自己文化灵魂的民族不知道可以算什么民族!!!

民族为民众存在,还是民众为了民族而活?

你大谈文化认同,不谈世界潮流。

让我想起19世纪美国西部大开发,白人的大车伴随着来福枪征服西部。原住民印第安人原来是依靠弓箭狩猎迁移的北美野牛群为生的,但是白人的滥捕滥杀让北美野牛逐渐绝种了。

资料――

Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump

野牛断头崖。这个算是加拿大艾伯塔省最有名的景点了吧。这里被平原印第安人用来猎捕野牛已有5600年的历史,被联合国教科文组织列入世界文化遗产。猎捕野牛的方法是面对野牛群,后面有人扮作狼驱赶野牛,前面有人扮成野牛引导野牛群往悬崖那里跑,然后通过绳子荡进悬崖下面的山洞里,野牛自然不会荡绳子了,然后...完事后下面的人就开始满地捡野牛了。有兴趣的朋友可以去这个网站看看http://www.head-smashed-in.com/

印第安部落们面临选择:

选择1、放弃自己的文化,向白人学习。从流动狩猎改为定居放牧,放弃弓箭拿起来福枪维护自己的利益,向白人发动游击战,美国政府被迫媾和,他们最后赢得了保留地。

资料――

1868年拉勒米堡条约。因为酋长红云发动的游击战而使美国政府被迫签订的条约。

FORT LARAMIE TREATY

APRIL 29, 1868

TREATY WITH THE SIOUX-- BRULé, OGLALA, MINICONJOU, YANKTONAI, HUNKPAPA, BLACKFEET, CUTHEAD, TWO KETTLE, SANS ARCS, AND SANTEE--AND ARAPAHO

15 Stat., 635.

Ratified, Feb. 16, 1869.

Proclaimed, Feb. 24, 1869

Articles of a treaty made and concluded by and between Lieutenant-General William T. Sherman, General William S. Harney, General Alfred H. Terry, General C. C,. Augur, J. B. Henderson, Nathaniel G. Taylor, John B. Sanborn, and Samuel F. Tappan, duly appointed commissioners on the part of the United States, and the different bands of the Sioux Nation of Indians, by their chiefs and head-men, whose names are hereto subscribed, they being duly authorized to act in the premises.

ARTICLE 1. From this day forward all war between the parties to this agreement shall forever cease. The Government of the United States desires peace, and its honor is hereby pledged to keep it. The Indians desire peace, and they now pledge their honor to maintain it.

If bad men among the whites, or among other people subject to the authority of the United States, shall commit any wrong upon the person or property of the Indians, the United States will, upon proof made to the agent and forwarded to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs at Washington City, proceed at once to cause the offender to be arrested and punished according to the laws of the United States, and also re-imburse the injured person for the loss sustained.

If bad men among the Indians shall commit a wrong or depredation upon the person or property of any one, white, black, or Indian, subject to the authority of the United States, and at peace therewith, the Indians herein named solemnly agree that they will, upon proof made to their agent and notice by him, deliver up the wrong-doer to the United States, to be tried and punished according to its laws; and in case they wilfully refuse so to do, the person injured shall be re-imbursed for his loss from the annuities or other moneys due or to become due to them under this or other treaties made with the United States. And the President, on advising with the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, shall prescribe such rules and regulations for ascertaining damages under the provisions of this article as in his judgment may be proper. But no one sustaining loss while violating the provisions of this treaty or the laws of the United States shall be re-imbursed therefor.

ARTICLE 2. The United States agrees that the following district of country, to wit, viz: commencing on the east bank of the Missouri River where the forty-sixth parallel of north latitude crosses the same, thence along low-water mark down said east bank to a point opposite where the northern line of the State of Nebraska strikes the river, thence west across said river, and along the northern line of Nebraska to the one hundred and fourth degree of longitude west from Greenwich, thence north on said meridian to a point where the forty-sixth parallel of north latitude intercepts the same, thence due east along said parallel to the place of beginning; and in addition thereto, all existing reservations on the east bank of said river shall be, and the same is, set apart for the absolute and undisturbed use and occupation of the Indians herein named, and for such other friendly tribes or individual Indians as from time to time they may be willing, with the consent of the United States, to admit amongst them; and the United States now solemnly agrees that no persons except those herein designated and authorized so to do, and except such officers, agents, and employes of the Government as may be authorized to enter upon Indian reservations in discharge of duties enjoined by law, shall ever be permitted to pass over, settle upon, or reside in the territory described in this article, or in such territory as may be added to this reservation for the use of said Indians, and henceforth they will and do hereby relinquish all claims or right in and to any portion of the United States or Territories, except such as is embraced within the limits aforesaid, and except as hereinafter provided.

ARTICLE 3. If it should appear from actual survey or other satisfactory examination of said tract of land that it contains less than one hundred and sixty acres of tillable land for each person who, at the time, may be authorized to reside on it under the provisions of this treaty, and a very considerable number of such persons shall be disposed to commence cultivating the soil as farmers, the United States agrees to set apart, for the use of said Indians, as herein provided, such additional quantity of arable land, adjoining to said reservation, or as near to the same as it can be obtained, as may be required to provide the necessary amount.

ARTICLE 4. The United States agrees, at its own proper expense, to construct at some place on the Missouri River, near the center of said reservation, where timber and water may be convenient, the following buildings, to wit: a warehouse, a store-room for the use of the agent in storing goods belonging to the Indians, to cost not less than twenty-five hundred dollars; an agency-building for the residence of the agent, to cost not exceeding three thousand dollars; a residence for the physician, to cost not more than three thousand dollars; and five other buildings, for a carpenter, farmer, blacksmith, miller, and engineer, each to cost not exceeding two thousand dollars; also a schoolhouse or mission-building, so soon as a sufficient number of children can be induced by the agent to attend school, which shall not cost exceeding five thousand dollars.

The United States agrees further to cause to be erected on said reservation, near the other buildings herein authorized, a good steam circular-saw mill, with a grist-mill and shingle-machine attached to the same, to cost not exceeding eight thousand dollars.

ARTICLE 5. The United States agrees that the agent for said Indians shall in the future make his home at the agency-building; that he shall reside among them, and keep an office open at all times for the purpose of prompt and diligent inquiry into such matters of complaint by and against the Indians as may be presented for investigation under the provisions of their treaty stipulations, as also for the faithful discharge of other duties enjoined on him by law. In all cases of depredation on person or property he shall cause the evidence to be taken in writing and forwarded, together with his findings, to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, whose decision, subject to the revision of the Secretary of the Interior, shall be binding on the parties to this treaty.

ARTICLE 6. if any individual belonging to said tribes of Indians, or legally incorporated with them, being the head of a family, shall desire to commence farming, he shall have the privilege to select, in the presence and with the assistance of the agent then in charge, a tract of land within said reservation, not exceeding three hundred and twenty acres in extent, which tract, when so selected, certified, and recorded in the "land-book," as herein directed, shall cease to be held in common, but the same may be occupied and held in the exclusive possession of the person selecting it, and of his family, so long as he or they may continue to cultivate it.

Any person over eighteen years of age, not being the head of a family, may in like manner select and cause to be certified to him or her, for purposes of cultivation, a quantity of land not exceeding eighty acres in extent, and thereupon be entitled to the exclusive possession of the same as above directed.

For each tract of land so selected a certificate, containing a description thereof and the name of the person selecting it, with a certificate endorsed thereon that the same has been recorded, shall be delivered to the party entitled to it, by the agent, after the same shall have been recorded by him in a book to be kept in his office, subject to inspection, which said book shall be known as the "Sioux Land-Book."

The President may, at any time, order a survey of the reservation, and, when so surveyed, Congress shall provide for protecting the rights of said settlers in their improvements, and may fix the character of the title held by each. The United States may pass such laws on the subject of alienation and descent of property between the Indians and their descendants as may be thought proper. And it is further stipulated that any male Indians, over eighteen years of age, of any band or tribe that is or shall hereafter become a party to this treaty, who now is or who shall hereafter become a resident or occupant of any reservation or Territory not included in the tract of country designated and described in this treaty for the permanent home of the Indians, which is not mineral land, nor reserved by the United States for special purposes other than Indian occupation, and who shall have made improvements thereon of the value of two hundred dollars or more, and continuously occupied the same as a homestead for the term of three years, shall be entitled to receive from the United States a patent for one hundred and sixty acres of land including his said improve-meats, the same to be in the form of the legal subdivisions of the surveys of the public lands. Upon application in writing, sustained by the proof of two disinterested witnesses, made to the register of the local land-office when the land sought to be entered is within a land district, and when the tract sought to be entered is not in any land district, then upon said application and proof being made to the Commissioner of the General Land-Office, and the right of such Indian or Indians to enter such tract or tracts of land shall accrue and be perfect from the date of his first improvements thereon, and shall continue as long as he continues his residence and improvements, and no longer\'. And any Indian or Indians receiving a patent for land under the foregoing provisions, shall thereby and from thenceforth become and be a citizen of the United States, and be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of such citizens, and shall, at the same time, retain all his rights to benefits accruing to Indians under this treaty.

ARTICLE 7. In order to insure the civilization of the Indians entering into this treaty, the necessity of education is admitted, especially of such of them as are or may be settled on said agricultural reservations, and they therefore pledge themselves to compel their children, male and female, between the ages of six and sixteen years, to attend school; and it is hereby made the duty of the agent for said Indians to see that this stipulation is strictly complied with; and the United States agrees that for every thirty children between said ages who can be induced or compelled to attend school, a house shall be provided and a teacher competent to teach the elementary branches of an English education shall be furnished, who will reside among said Indians, and faithfully discharge his or her duties as a teacher. The provisions of this article to continue for not less than twenty years.

ARTICLE 8. When the head of a family or lodge shall have selected lands and received his certificate as above directed, and the agent shall be satisfied that he intends in good faith to commence cultivating the soil for a living, he shall be entitled to receive seeds and agricultural implements for the first year, not exceeding in value one hundred dollars, and for each succeeding year he shall continue to farm, for a period of three years more, he shall be entitled to receive seeds and implements as aforesaid, not exceeding in value twenty-five dollars.

And it is further stipulated that such persons as commence farming shall receive instruction from the farmer herein provided for, and whenever more than one hundred persons shall enter upon the cultivation of the soil, a second blacksmith shall be provided, with such iron, steel, and other material as may be needed.

ARTICLE 9. At any time after ten years from the making of this treaty, the United States shall have the privilege of withdrawing the physician, farmer, blacksmith, carpenter, engineer, and miller herein provided for, but in case of such withdrawal, an additional sum thereafter of ten thousand dollars per annum shall be devoted to the education of said Indians, and the Commissioner of Indian Affairs shall, upon careful inquiry into their condition, make such rules and regulations for the expenditure of said sum as will best promote the educational and moral improvement of said tribes.

ARTICLE 10. In lieu of all sums of money or other annuities provided to be paid to the Indians herein named, under any treaty or treaties heretofore made, the United States agrees to deliver at the agency-house on the reservation herein named, on or before the first day of August of each year, for thirty years, the following articles, to wit:

For each male person over fourteen years of age, a suit of good substantial woolen clothing, consisting of coat, pantaloons, flannel shirt, hat, and a pair of home-made socks.

For each female over twelve years of age, a flannel skirt, or the goods necessary to make it, a pair of woolen hose, twelve yards of calico, and twelve yards of cotton domestics.

For the boys and girls under the ages named, such flannel and cotton goods as may be needed to make each a suit as aforesaid, together with a pair of woolen hose for each.

And in order that the Commissioner of Indian Affairs may be able to estimate properly for the articles herein named, it shall be the duty of the agent each year to forward to him a full and exact census of the Indians, on which the estimate from year to year can be based.

And in addition to the clothing herein named, the sum of ten dollars for each person entitled to the beneficial effects of this treaty shall be annually appropriated for a period of thirty years, while such persons roam and hunt, and twenty dollars for, each person who engages in farming, to be used by the Secretary of the Interior in the purchase of such articles as from time to time the condition and necessities of the Indians may indicate to be proper. And if within the thirty years, at any time, it shall appear that the amount of money needed for clothing under this article can be appropriated to better uses for the Indians named herein, Congress may, by law, change the appropriation to other purposes; but in no event shall the amount of this appropriation be withdrawn or discontinued for the period named. And the President shall annually detail an officer of the Army to be present and attest the delivery of all the goods herein named to the Indians, and he shall inspect and report on the quantity and quality of the goods and the manner of their delivery. And it is hereby expressly stipulated that each Indian over the age of four years, who shall have removed to and settled permanently upon said reservation and complied with the stipulations of this treaty, shall be entitled to receive from the United States, for the period of four years after he shall have settled upon said reservation, one pound of meat and one pound of flour per day, provided the Indians cannot furnish their own subsistence at an earlier date. And it is further stipulated that the United States will furnish and deliver to each lodge of Indians or family of persons legally incorporated with them, who shall remove to the reservation herein described and commence farming, one good American cow, and one good well-broken pair of American oxen within sixty days after such lodge or family shall have so settled upon said reservation.

ARTICLE 11. In consideration of the advantages and benefits conferred by this treaty, and the many pledges of friendship by the United States, the tribes who are parties to this agreement hereby stipulate that they will relinquish all right to occupy permanently the territory outside their reservation as herein defined, but yet reserve the right to hunt on any lands north of North Platte, and on the Republican Fork of the Smoky Hill River, so long as the buffalo may range thereon in such numbers as to justify the chase. And they, the said Indians, further expressly agree:

1st. That they will withdraw all opposition to the construction of the railroads now being built on the plains.

2d. That they will permit the peaceful construction of any railroad not passing over their reservation as herein defined.

3d. That they will not attack any persons at home, or travelling, nor molest or disturb any wagon-trains, coaches, mules, or cattle belonging to the people of the United States, or to persons friendly therewith.

4th. They will never capture, or carry off from the settlements, white women or children.

5th. They will never kill or scalp white men, nor attempt to do them harm.

6th. They withdraw all pretence of opposition to the construction of the railroad now being built along the Platte River and westward to the Pacific Ocean, and they will not in future object to the construction of railroads, wagon-roads, mail-stations, or other works of utility or necessity, which may be ordered or permitted by the laws of the United States. But should such roads or other works be constructed on the lands of their reservation, the Government will pay the tribe whatever amount of damage may be assessed by three disinterested commissioners to be appointed by the President for that purpose, one of said commissioners to be a chief or head-man of the tribe.

7th. They agree to withdraw all opposition to the military posts or roads now established south of the North Platte River, or that may be established, not in violation of treaties heretofore made or hereafter to be made with any of the Indian tribes.

ARTICLE 12. No treaty for the cession of any portion or part of the reservation herein described which may be held in common shall be of any validity or force as against the said Indians, unless executed and signed by at least three-fourths of all the adult male Indians, occupying or interested in the same; and no cession by the tribe shall be understood or construed in such manner as to deprive, without his consent, any individual member of the tribe of his rights to any tract of land selected by him, as provided in article 6 of this treaty.

ARTICLE 13. The United States hereby agrees to furnish annually to the Indians the physician, teachers, carpenter, miller, engineer, farmer, and blacksmiths as herein contemplated, and that such appropriations shall be made from time to time, on the estimates of the Secretary of the Interior, as will be sufficient to employ such persons.

ARTICLE 14. it is agreed that the sum of five hundred dollars annually, for three years from date, shall be expended in presents to the ten persons of said tribe who in the judgment of the agent may grow the most valuable crops for the respective year.

ARTICLE 15. The Indians herein named agree that when the agency-house or other buildings shall be constructed on the reservation named, they will regard said reservation their permanent home, and they will make no permanent settlement elsewhere; but they shall have the right, subject to the conditions and modifications of this treaty, to hunt, as stipulated in Article 11 hereof.

ARTICLE 16. The United States hereby agrees and stipulates that the country north of the North Platte River and east of the summits of the Big Horn Mountains shall be held and considered to be unceded Indian territory, and also stipulates and agrees that no white person or persons shall be permitted to settle upon or occupy any portion of the same; or without the consent of the Indians first had and obtained, to pass through the same; and it is further agreed by the United States that within ninety days after the conclusion of peace with all the bands of the Sioux Nation, the military posts now established in the territory in this article named shall be abandoned, and that the road leading to them and by them to the settlements in the Territory of Montana shall be closed.

ARTICLE 17. It is hereby expressly understood and agreed by and between the respective parties to this treaty that the execution of this treaty and its ratification by the United States Senate shall have the effect, and shall be construed as abrogating and annulling all treaties and agreements heretofore entered into between the respective parties hereto, so far as such treaties and agreements obligate the United States to furnish and provide money, clothing, or other articles of property to such Indians and bands of Indians as become parties to this treaty, but no further.

In testimony of all which, we, the said commissioners, and we, the chiefs and headmen of the Brulé\' band of the Sioux nation, have hereunto set our hands and seals at Fort Laramie, Dakota Territory, this twenty-ninth day of April, in the year one thousand eight hundred and sixty-eight.

选择2、固执的维持自己的文化,迁移追寻越来越少的北美野牛,不惜拿着弓箭对抗白人,他们被白人灭绝了。

很多部落灭绝了,很多部落文化中断了却让子民活了下来。

印第安文化也是文化,不知道他们应该像印加人一样绝种,还是像现在这样生活。

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家园 还有中国文化么?恐怕只剩下文献了,所谓文化基本上已经停滞千年了

真正有开创意义上的大思想家

已经2000多年没产生了

既便是最低标准的中国文化的思想家,也已经300年没有诞生过了

其他的,不过是些搞选育搞杂交的园艺师罢了

难听点说,中国文化,已经等于是死了的文化了

我们对中国文化的智慧大脑的继承已经越来越少,而中国文化的躯体则不得不做了多次器官移植以适应国际生态

除了汉字汉语,我们剩不下什么了。

也没有什么能够值得我们去真正的主动去吸收学习的,毕竟他们已经是2000年前的尸体,早已不鲜活了

我们的祖宗留下的遗产让我们吃了2000年老本,到现在早就剩不下什么了

干尸是不可能谈什么生长发展的

看看北大元培班的下场吧

当初雄心壮志要趁着那帮老先生还没见炎帝黄帝去,要培养一批承前启后的国学大师人物

结果呢,毕业后一个不剩,全跑外企打工去了,国学,不知道哪里去了

被当作传递薪火的种子选手尚且如此,还指望被升学就业折磨的普通大众如何呢?

文化,终久是有闲阶级才搞得起来的

家园 中国文化是死了的文化?呵呵,慎言啊。
家园 有待商榷

文化不是帝王将相、才子佳人、大师达人们的文化。

文化首先是小民的文化,忠孝理智信只要还在民间,中华文化就没断决。

家园 恨铁不成钢啊,看着钢胚往变废铜烂铁的方向去,唉

可是,

文化首先是小民的文化,忠孝理智信只要还在民间,中华文化就没断决。???

那称得上是文化么?

充其量是风俗习惯传统罢了,最多也就是文化的根基

没有诞生新的思想家的那些根基,是升华不出文化的

而且,看如今的样子,怎么都是流于恶俗的趋势,比如木子美,FRJJ,比如超级女声

家园 还不至于如此

比如木子美,FRJJ,比如超级女声

这些也就是流行事物,比不上风俗习惯传统。

其实,忠孝理智信,理智信在加强,忠孝在淡化,中国人依然是中国人。

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