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家园 GSG9的装备才是反恐特种部队的正道

MP5的精确点射,.44 Magnum的大驻止威力,如果用突击步枪,恐怖分子肯定一枪毙命,但不知道多少人质要遭殃。

.44 Magnum的动能大很多,但很钝的弹头使它的穿透力不大,动能全部传到目标,正好!

家园 【再续】我该选支什么枪?

洛杉矶街头

1997年2月28日上午9点,2名头戴面具、手持突击步枪的人走进了洛杉矶北好莱坞Laurel Cayon Blvd和Archwood大街街口的银行,在附近值勤的巡警发现后,立刻呼叫了支援。9点38分,当2名劫匪扛着装满钱的背包走出银行时,数十辆警车已在门口围成一个半圆,集结的警察超过百人。警察开始喊话,要求劫匪放下武器投降,回答他们的是突击步枪的扫射。警察手中的贝雷塔92F和滑膛枪的火力根本不能和突击步枪相提并论,立刻被压制在射程之外,5分钟之内就有9名警察和3名平民受伤。不得已,警察只好从附近的枪店征用了几支AR-15(M-16的民用型,2004年禁枪法案失效前是违禁武器)才勉强阻止了劫匪逃跑的企图。

洛杉矶警察局迅速调集三百多人的庞大后援,封锁了附近街区,还动用了V-100警用装甲车。洛杉矶特警SWAT(Special Weapons And Tactics,特殊武器与战术)也派出3个小组,每组装备3支MP5A5、2支XM733短卡宾枪、1支M870雷明顿滑膛枪和6支手枪。每支MP5A5配有辅助照明灯、激光红点瞄准系统、双联30发标准弹夹及三角背带。

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随后大规模的枪战在银行停车场中展开,SWAT主攻小组的MP5A5首先向劫匪开火。他们在约20米的距离上横向运动中点射两次,压制劫匪首先开火的企图,但是当第3个点射击伤一名劫匪的右臂,警方才知道劫匪穿了整体式防弹衣。主攻小组随即从停车场外侧围向劫匪,其中3名持MP5A5的队员共计射出近70发子弹。两名劫匪虽中弹多处,但由于有整体式防弹衣的保护,未被击倒。劫匪一面用突击步枪进行还击,一面交替掩护向准备好的车辆转移。连续的射击压制了警方的火力,给警方造成了几名新的伤员,一名劫匪乘机驾一辆白色轿车逃离。几分钟后,另一劫匪离开作为掩体的汽车,走到街上,用AK47步枪向警察和空中的电视台直升机猛烈开火。SWAT的MP5A5连续命中其小腿、手臂、身体躯干等非致命部位,但仍不能穿透他的防弹衣。直到劫匪的AK47的枪机被击中,无法射击,发现已不能逃脱,于是开枪自杀。

开车的劫匪沿Archwood大街一路西逃,经过4个街区后碰到一辆迎面开来的皮卡。于是劫匪放弃了轿车,将武器向皮卡上转移。这时紧跟上来的SWAT警车堵住皮卡去路,双方又开始新一轮交火。最后,警方用AR-15和XM733抵近连续射击,击毙了劫匪。

这次枪战,两名劫匪死亡,共有7名平民和11名警察受伤。事后警方发现劫匪共持有3支AK47,1支5.56mm的Bushmaster自动步枪,1支7.62mm的HK步枪,1支贝雷塔手枪,身上有许多装好的实弹夹,车中还有2200多发子弹。劫匪在被击毙前共发射了超过1100发子弹,火力十分强大。现场一辆警车中弹57发,一个用作掩体的售货亭中弹150多发,许多建筑被打成了蜂窝。劫匪所穿的整体式防弹衣厚重结实、包裹严密,子弹打上去纷纷跳飞,仅造成了一些震伤,不过也使他们不能灵活的行动,稍低一点的掩体就趴不下去。

面对此等重装备的劫匪,AR15和XM733组成了最有效的火力,而声名显赫的MP5累计发射200余发子弹、命中30余发,却不能使劫匪失去抵抗能力。在近距离对付拥有突击步枪的劫匪时,MP5的优点变成了缺陷--精度高,但无法形成覆盖式弹着,不能压制劫匪的火力;稳定的射速难以抵抗散步式火力的攻击;9mm枪弹穿透力不够,对付不了穿防弹衣的劫匪。反倒是劫匪的突击步枪在近距离的穿透力和散布对警方的压制作用明显。MP5性能虽好,可这次用在了一个错误的场合。至于M870雷明顿滑膛枪,命中30余发,无一造成伤害,大出洋相,今后也只好对付对付小贼。

吸取此战教训,洛杉矶警察装备了美军撤换下来改为单发的M16A1步枪,SWAT则用1支XM733换下了1支MP5A5,作为标准的SWAT小组配置,在遇到拥有突击步枪的罪犯时,还要再加强2支XM733。

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说了这么多,归结到一句话:"什么样的任务选择什么样的武器。"完美的武器并不存在,任何一种武器都有其优势和弱点,而作战需要面对的情况错综复杂,对手形形色色,只有针对不同的情况和对手,采用不同的武器装备,扬长避短,才能充分发挥武器的效能,克敌制胜。


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家园 这个在电视里看过几次

打的真激烈啊,警察习惯地用警车做掩体,可是不管用,都被打穿了。

家园 该事件被拍成电影《44分钟》,基本算是写实,可以看看

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家园 【文摘】How the AK-47 Came to Rule the Streets

Nino Brown, Pacific News Service

May 20, 2004

I got my first gun when I was 12. It was a .32 automatic, a small pistol no bigger than the palm of your hand. This guy would come around the neighborhood every three weeks with a backpack full of pistols and sell them for $25 each.

Eventually he stopped coming around and we had to get our guns elsewhere, which wasn't too hard growing up in the Fillmore and the Tenderloin, inner-city neighborhoods. My first "big" gun was a .357 Magnum, a revolver close to 12 inches long that sounds like thunder when it's fired. My mom found it and took it away.

Between the ages of 12 and 18, I came across so many pistols that it was second nature to have one on me. One day when I was about 14, a police sergeant saw me drinking a beer on the street. He's patting me down, and through the whole thing I'm thinking, "What if he finds the pistol?" I had a .45 caliber under my waistband in the small of my back. He missed it.

After that, I stopped holding guns for a while. But later that year something happened that made me start holding full time.

It was nighttime, and almost all the hommiez was outside kickin' it on the block. An old man came out of the building, stopped and posted up against the wall, right in the middle of us all. It was night but he was wearing black sunglasses and some kind of army outfit.

The next thing I know he pulls out what looked like a 9mm Beretta and opens fire. I was stuck for a few seconds watching this dude shoot at my hommiez. Then I reached into the small of my back for my gun -- and it wasn't there.

"Damn, I'm dead." I thought.

The shooter finished unloading one clip, ejected it, came out with another clip, loaded it, cocked a round into the chamber and looked at me and two other guys still sitting there. We got up to run, but one of the guys was hit in the lower back and fell down. The guy next to me stopped to help him and got shot in the leg. I stopped to check on him but he just screamed, "run lil' nigga, get outta here." I ran and hid in a nearby doorway.

After that incident, I stayed strapped.

Of all the guns I've had over the years, my favorite was a sawed-off shotgun with a pistol grip. I kept the barrel of it in my pants pocket. I'd put the handle under my armpit, which made me walk with a gangsterish limp. It was either walk with my shoulder hunched up 10 inches higher than the rest of my body or walk like a gangsta. I walked like a gangsta.

In the mid-'80s the gun of choice on the streets was the Uzi 9mm, a small submachine gun able to hold 30 to 60 rounds. With a longer clip the gun tended to jam. In a shooting battle that could mean death, so people soon switched to the Glock 9mm and the .45 caliber.

Bulletproof vests became a hot commodity to defend against these small handheld pistols, until some genius invented hollow-point bullets. Police upgraded their vests, but then someone laced the hollow points with Teflon and silicone, creating bullets known as "Cop Killers."

The latest weapon of choice on the streets, the one getting all the attention today, is the Russian Kalashnikov, or AK-47 -- a large assault rifle capable of holding 100 rounds in one clip. On the streets it's called a street-sweeper, because anything it hits gets swept away. Cars and trucks are turned into Swiss cheese -- imagine what this weapon does to human beings.

Why is this the gun of choice? Simple. Let's say you have a shotgun, or a snub-nose .38, or a Glock 9mm. My AK is a rapid-fire, handheld cannon. When you run out of bullets, I'm just getting started. You can't hide. I'm the equivalent of seven well-armed hunters; you're a sitting duck. You've got a pellet gun; I've got lightning bolts and thunder.

I've never shot an AK-47, but I have had, and shot, a Mac 90, which is a very close knock-off. I think that both guns aren't good weapons to carry around unless you're about to go to war against a large group of people.

Some people think that banning assault rifles will somehow stop them from circulating in "our" society. But even with the current ban, you can still buy an AK-47 on the streets. The same is true for almost any gun, big or small.

家园 NP-90不错的!

大容量弹匣,穿透力强!

家园 指出两点不同意见

1.阿尔法和信号旗使用的是AN94,AK74只是俄军普通步兵的标配

2.因为历史原因,我对老毛子的厌恶仅次于倭奴和高丽棒子,但必须承认,阿尔法和信号旗是世界上最优秀的特种部队.别斯兰事件以及之前的莫斯科大剧院的行动都是失败的,但失败的最大原因是由于现场指挥弱智混乱,非突击队之错.西方国家因为意识形态的原因总是蓄意贬低东方国家的任何事物,这两次行动也一样.单单设想一下别斯兰,几十名怀着必死决心的恐怖分子,劫持了几百名未成年儿童,现场布满了触压式地雷.换成任何一支享誉全球的西方部队,都不可能在如此混乱的情况下做得比俄罗斯军人更好,甚至人质的伤亡将远远多于这两次,因为"民主"的西方士兵是绝对不会用自己的血肉之躯去为人质挡子弹的,不用人质为自己挡子弹已经很有人格了

家园 应该是P-90吧
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