主题：【整理】zt China helpEurope, AF -- parishg

internal demand from and for average Chinese. Let Chinese enjoy finally the benefits of growth.

It is a 1.3b people market, the world's largest one.

Anyway, no need to discuss that since it is politicially impossible option.

I wish I will be wrong, because if FT, Bloomberg and I are correct, China needs to/is gonna lend to at least USD 900b to 1t to IMF to achieve the desired firepower for EFSF (1.4t power, EFSF has only 250b left after the Irish/Port. rescue). That's almost 1/3 of China's current foreign reserve.

That's a very large strategic move. Last time when Asia was in economic crisis in 1990s, Asians were pretty much kned on the ground, begging with all the tear for a few billion dollars loans from IMF or World Bank.

I am old enough to live through that history and I will never forget. This time, Asians prove to be too nice.

forced the deal last night. Check FT report.

欧元和人民币汇率会怎样走

救别人就是救自己，大盘子崩了谁都没的玩。现在还没到剑拔弩张的时候。

只是欧洲不愿意让它破产，怕影响太大。

这样的影响难道不是比破产还要大还要糟糕？

希腊可以破产赖帐，但希腊破产会对整个欧洲影响深远，所以欧洲欧元区国家必须去救，不然后果不堪设想。

其余的就是德法跟欧洲银行们 讨价还价的事情，跟希腊关系不大了。

如果不同意这个方案，欠的钱拿不回来。

欧洲股市大涨，前些天欧洲不少银行以面值的35%买了不少希腊国债。现在希腊国债的50%能保住，银行的交易收益不少哈。

至少这个数额，不论是央视还是BBC都不会瞒报伪报了。。。

Morgan Stanley 涨了20％，好多！

http://finance.ifeng.com/news/hqcj/20111028/4951556.shtml

虽然语言不详但恐怕不是空穴来风

傅莹的最新讲话。

白给是不可能了,看看到底换回啥了，要是就换回个市场经济地位那就傻逼了。

国内工厂的成本也会暴跌，从而增大工人消费的物资份额（从欧洲省出来的），缓解很多问题。市场并不需要救，欧洲人买不起了还有好多非洲人南美人要买的。