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家园 【讨论】万里长征才走完第一步

朝日新闻昨天报道:还要40年!冷温停止只是说核反应停了,可以擦一把满头汗了。以后,第一步先把冷却池里的废燃料棒捞出来,把炸得乱七八糟的外围清理干净。然后再检查反应堆外壳,把漏水漏气的地方统统补好。第二步,灌水!把反应堆灌满。同时在反应堆外建造全遥控的机械手。这个没的买,只能从头研制。第三步,慢慢捞。把反应堆里的脏货统统捞干净。然后再慢慢拆。

40年只是理想状态的时间表。还有许多悬案未决。比如地球人都想知道:捞出来的固体物质往哪里放?

家园 缅甸的水电站是中国去修的,也可以算中国电。

家园 阿拉斯加海豹死于日本核泄漏污染

就不全文转载了, 英文新闻在这里:

[URL=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079317/Seals-damaged-flippers-hair-loss-killed-radiation-Fukushima-plant-biologists-warn.html?ito=feeds-newsxml]Seals with damaged flippers and hair loss 'are being killed by radiation from Fukushima plant', biologists warn

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079317/Seals-damaged-flippers-hair-loss-killed-radiation-Fukushima-plant-biologists-warn.html#ixzz1hzveUksz[/URL]

点看全图

外链图片需谨慎,可能会被源头改

各位还是别吃阿拉斯加的海产品了吧。

通宝推:parishg,
家园 阿弥陀佛
家园 帝王蟹不能吃了

或者,以后可以吃澡盆大小的帝王蟹?

家园 我连温哥华产的三文鱼都不敢吃了
家园 又震了

第二季开始?

家园 俺的智商死于...

太平洋彼岸的常见大型海生哺乳动物大批量死于日本核泄漏!如此2012级的信息, 大多数地球人民竟“不知有汉”? 还是科学家,政府都是阴谋的核心,真理掌握在少数人文关怀者的手里???

楼上的新闻摘要来自mail online (AKA dailymail.co.uk). What is mail online? 该报网站没有About us, 只有Contact us, 在那里得到的信息除了出版商名称和地址以外,就只有:Registered in England and Wales with company number 84121. Google 一下,还不错,有自己的wikipedia介绍。介绍非常简短,只有220个字。但重点非常突出,没有历史沿革,直指网页流量数据:

“The website is very popular, reaching 78,994,874 unique web browsers in October 2011 (up from 66m in March 2011[1]) according to the Audit Bureau of Circulations, making it the most popular UK newspaper website ahead of guardian.co.uk”

“Globally it is the second most visited newspaper website according to ComScore, whose methodology gave the site 39.6m unique visitors for March 2011, putting it ahead of the Huffington Post and behind only The New York Times' website which received 44.8m visitors in the same month.[4]”

这里的数据,引文,煞有介事,不过是用2011年某月的某数据得出其为英国最热门(领先于卫报网站),和全球第二大 (仅次于纽约时报网站)新闻报刊网站的结论。“我不管你信不信,反正俺信了”

该维基网页上还有这么一句莫名其妙的话:“The search engine on the Daily Mail website is also widely used, being one of Internet Explorer 7's default web searches, alongside names such as Google, Yahoo! and eBay.” Ebay什么时候和search engine有半毛钱关系了?见识过央视中文台不着边际,东拉西扯,毫无逻辑的涂鸦式2011新闻年鉴后,俺对这种天花乱坠式拉虎皮作大旗很淡定

回到新闻本身,楼上给出的链接值得一观,尤其是新闻下面的读者评论以及他们各自的“花”“草”纪录。摘录几个,祝大家新年笑口常开

If the lab results are not back yet, why was this article published? What you going to do when the results come back with zero attribution to radioactivity? This article seems to be geared towards spreading unwarranted speculation from the anti-nuclear people or those who are simply very uninformed about radiation in the environment - and immune systems. Any animal with that amount of bleeding and hair loss to have had anything to do with radioactivity would have had to be sitting on top of a very intense source of radiation. Not possible in the oceans. Journalist has zero science training. Publisher ditto.

- Caroline, Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, 31/12/2011 01:32 (花0 草3)

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what a ridiculous article full of speculation with no facts at all to back up their claims. The cause is not known so why would any ethical journalist put out this garbage report with nothing to back it up.? This isn't news it is simply a blatant anti nuclear opinion piece trying to disguise itself as something else. This kind of obvious fear mongering should be illegal and the authors should be ashamed. I'm disgusted.

- nuke roadie, usa, 31/12/2011 00:35 (花0 草2)

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We humans have a lot to answer for.

- Annabel, London, England, 29/12/2011 18:50 (花22 草0)

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The web sites Enenews and EX-SKF have daily updates on the situation, as well as Arnie Gundersen from Fairewinds Associates. The main stream media and governments are not covering this because it's so serious they are afraid of panic (and being blamed...). The commenter who thinks that there was no radiation leak needs to become educated on this. Those seals are obviously suffering from radiation injuries.

- signalfire, Myrtle Creek, Oregon , 28/12/2011 23:33(花46 草0)

家园 路透社也报了,见链接

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/28/us-usa-alaska-seals-idUSTRE7BR01420111228

不光是那个小网站

Google一下,万把条消息

家园 路透社果然专业水准,技高一筹

比较一下:

“英国最热门新闻报刊网站”Mail online的标题 Seals with damaged flippers and hair loss 'are being killed by radiation from Fukushima plant', biologists warn

路透社的标题 Scientists test sick Alaska seals for radiation

不过水准最高的还是摘要党们,不管是装傻还是装13的标题,都能被你们火眼金睛地直捣要义,精辟地将有待证实或证伪的猜测假说总结为结论。

如果真的关心这个假说的验证结果,请追踪这项研究,或有关这项研究的相关报道。如果就此没了下文,或者又出了一个不知所终的“Scientist test sick California sea lions for radiation", 俺的智商是不是还要再死一回?

家园 眼睛黑黑的,很恐怖啊
家园 您得预备您的智商这2年被日本核危机的新闻弄死好多回

阿拉斯加的海豹出问题了

美国一所大学里海洋化学专业的教授怀疑不除外是福岛的核辐射所致。

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面对这些信息,我的选择是尽量不吃帝王蟹啥的。大连的海蛎子啥的,不得意这一口的话,也暂时戒了吧。

至于这个问题到底如何,无关紧要。就好像您要是发现警察们怀疑您前楼的住户可能是连环杀手的话,您指定不会为了迁就您的智商不死,非得等到联邦法院审结。您指定会一早提醒您的家人注意安全。就是这么个意思。

家园 daily mail还是挺畅销的,主流报纸之一啊

地位又没有那么高得看读者们了,不过八卦和不靠谱的各种消息满多的,这个看甄别力。

家园 哎,俺也一样, 艹他吗的脚盆
家园 问题是这个严重程度

海豹是大型哺乳动物,能把它们辐射死,那要每小时多大的剂量?强辐射区已经蔓延到哪里了?人跟海豹站一块,是哪个先扛不住?

我希望科学家们搞清楚,最好不是辐射原因。如果是真,那么温哥华和西雅图岂不也要无人化?小鬼子又来“三光”了?

如果远在天边的辐射都成真,那么近在咫尺的东京,岂不已经加料完毕,只等发酵了?

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