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家园 再怎么说《The New Republic》也只是一刊物,作为史料有点底气不

不足。舰船上某网友引用某畅销杂志为证沦为笑柄。我现在找不到关于这段历史的资料,所以我也不能说这是假的,但兄台能否提出更为确凿的证据

家园 看过半眼

国内上海外坛子没什么问题,找个代理就行。不过海外政治坛子太无聊,基本都一个样子。

家园 手头倒没有,容我再去查啊。
家园 【注意】找到了关于南共游击队屠杀3万战俘的权威史料,摘录如下。

米洛万▪吉拉斯(Milovan Djilas,1911-1997)是铁托的亲密战友,南共二号人物,公认的铁托接班人,战后出任南斯拉夫国家副主席。1955年突然被铁托撤销一切党内职务,并开除出党。由於他公开支持匈牙利暴动,1956年被捕,入狱9年。六十年代末又由於出版“和斯大林对话”一书再次入狱。

吉拉斯著有回忆录“Wartime”(Harcourt Brace Jovanovich Inc. 1977),是史学界研究南斯拉夫抵抗运动的权威资料。在该书第446页有关于此次屠杀的记录,原文如下:

“It was in Montenegro that I welcomed the end of our own fighting: on May 15, 1945, the German forces - estimated at 130,000 - finally recognized us as a legal Allied army and laid down their arms. There were individual cases of retribution in the course of the disarming. The captured Germans were sent to camps and put to work. Along with the Germans, our enemies who collaborated with the invaders or bound their destiny to the fascist powers - the Chetniks, the Ustashi, Home Guards, and the Slovenian Home Guards - also laid down their arms. Some of these groups got through to the British in Austria, who turned them over to us. All were killed, except for women and young people who were under 18 years of age - so we were told at the time in Montenegro, and so I later heard from those who had taken part in these senseless acts of wrathful retribution.

These killings were sheer frenzy. How many victims were there? I believe that no one knows exactly, or will ever know. According to what I heard in passing from a few officials involved in that settling of scores, the number exceeds 20,000 - though it must certainly be under 30,000, including all three groups just cited. They were killed separately, each group on the territory where they had been taken prisoner. A year of two later, there was grumbling in the Slovenian Central Committee that they had trouble with the peasants from those areas, because underground rivers were casting up bodies. They also said that piles of corpses were heaving up as they rotted in shallow mass graves, so that the very earth seemed to breathe.”

家园 史鉴,包子,两位是东南欧的专家能否谈谈铁托

此人在共产主义运动中一向独特,搞掉自己的接班人,不要接班人,有点‘我死之后,哪管洪水滔天’的意思。后来南斯拉夫分裂,是他也有责任吧?

家园 倒是觉得后一件事他反而有功

要没有他那末多年压着,恐怕南斯拉夫早就出事了。

家园 他的个人魅力是超群的,也有许多逸事
家园 纳粹将星完了以后打算写一篇小文,讲铁托和斯大林决裂的始末,到时还请各位指教啊
家园 希望能早日见到大作。宗教对文化,历史的影响真太大了。

现在世界范围的恐怖主义也多源于宗教矛盾。我看关于宗教历史和心理很值得大家探讨!

家园 德国北部是新教,南部巴伐利亚等是天主教

北部这儿对罗马教皇不怎么感冒

家园 连里面那首歌都是意大利歌,呵呵

家园 克伦威尔还算好的

犹太人好像是都铎时代被请到英国来的,当时在伦敦建了第一座犹太教堂。后来被赶走了,到克伦威尔执政重新提出的接纳犹太人,但具体实行要等到王室复辟以后了。

家园 享年94,这世道还有公平可言么
成功说服西德政府补发前党卫军士兵的退休金

双手沾满欧洲人民的鲜血啊。

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