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                      • 家园 唉,真是懒点都不行

                        In conclusion, our study suggests that structural alterations of gut microbiota, induced by Chinese herbal formula GQD, are associated with the anti-diabetic effects of GQD. In particular, this treatment enriched the number of beneficial bacteria, such as Faecalibacterium spp. in the gut. Although it is still unclear whether changes of gut microbiota by GQD directly contribute to the improvement of glucose homeostasis, our clinical study provides circumstantial evidence that gut microbiota might be involved.

                        感谢百度翻译节省一些时间:

                        总之,我们的研究表明,中药复方GQD引起的肠道菌群结构改变与GQD的抗糖尿病作用有关。特别是,这种治疗方法增加了肠道中有益细菌的数量,如粪便杆菌属。尽管目前尚不清楚GQD对肠道菌群的改变是否直接有助于改善血糖稳态,但我们的临床研究提供了间接证据,表明肠道菌群可能参与其中。

                        为了确认一下GQD是什么,我又去论文头部那里瞄了一眼:

                        The gut microbiota is hypothesized to have a critical role in metabolic diseases, including type 2 diabetes (T2D). A traditional Chinese herbal formula, Gegen Qinlian Decoction (GQD), can alleviate T2D.

                        GQD就是葛根青莲汤了,意外的发现了另一个对你沉重的打击:“can alleviate T2D”,这里写得很清楚了,alleviate T2D仅仅就是减轻缓和二型糖尿病而已,何来“根治”?

                        你自己说中医可以根治,然后塞给我一篇论文,我指出论文没说根治,先是说我不懂英文,现在又说我在讲笑话,唉,你这样误导吃瓜群众,不大好吧?

                    • 家园 想欺负我不懂英文?

                      你说的是这篇论文吧

                      https://www.nature.com/articles/ismej2014177

                      直接跳到结论:

                      In conclusion, our study suggests that structural alterations of gut microbiota, induced by Chinese herbal formula GQD, are associated with the anti-diabetic effects of GQD. In particular, this treatment enriched the number of beneficial bacteria, such as Faecalibacterium spp. in the gut. Although it is still unclear whether changes of gut microbiota by GQD directly contribute to the improvement of glucose homeostasis, our clinical study provides circumstantial evidence that gut microbiota might be involved.

                      不过是说发现肠道有益的细菌数目多了,而且人家都强调“still unclear”,仅仅是gut microbiota might be involved。请注意“might be”两字。

                      到了你那里,就变成根治了

                      以后河里应该定个规矩,吹牛要给铁手上税才行,好歹可以补贴一下流量费。

                      还有另外一个问题,这篇论文是发表在Nature的Open Access上面的,按照我的理解,这个Open Access好像水平比正经的要低一些?由于我不是学术界的,这个就要请教一下行家了。

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