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家园 送花谢宝 说实话，美国的民族混合而不是民族融合，迟早会带来麻烦！那时候白人精英们会哀叹红旗还能打多久了！
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家园 有趣 二十年内没戏吧 一点分裂的影子还没有呢 顶多美国人民就是点牢骚
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家园 有种理解认为 亨廷顿的文明冲突学说主要针对的是美国的内部问题，对美国未来文化上拉美化、WASP文化丧失统治地位而忧心忡忡。
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家园 亨廷顿是很担忧 后来还写了一本书叫 Who Are We: The Challenges to America's National Identity
The author seeks at length to prove that the American Creed, which he defines as a Protestant-influenced ideology modeled on the British system, was the founders' original intent and remains America's best course. He then turns to many of the usual subjects-the imperiled primacy of English, the dangers of immigration and multiculturalism-to make his case. He argues that a growing divide between the patriotic working class and "denationalized elites" will lead to internal fissures. Where those findings can lead is another question. For instance, he predicts a movement of white nativism. This movement while not "advocating white racist supremacy" would still believe that the "mixing of races and hence culture is the road to national degeneration." The book is also marred by a number of self-contradictions; for example, Huntington draws heavily on the founders to make a nationalist case even as he acknowledges that notions of Americanism (as opposed to allegiances to individual states) became popular only after the Civil War. Exhaustively researched and occasionally inspired, this polemic remains more often filled with colorless and ineffectual writing that will provide evidence for the converted but do little to persuade the doubters.
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家园 Huntington 这书不错 Who Are We?: The Challenges to America's National Identity
by Samuel Huntington
http://www.booknotes.org/Program/?ProgramID=1784
—from the publisher's website
In his seminal work The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order, Samuel Huntington argued provocatively and presciently that with the end of the cold war, "civilizations" were replacing ideologies as the new fault lines in international politics.His astute analysis has proven correct. Now Professor Huntington turns his attention from international affairs to our domestic cultural rifts as he examines the impact other civilizations and their values are having on our own country.
America was founded by British settlers who brought with them a distinct culture including the English language, Protestant values, individualism, religious commitment, and respect for law. The waves of immigrants that later came to the United States gradually accepted these values and assimilated into America's Anglo-Protestant culture. More recently, however, national identity has been eroded by the problems of assimilating massive numbers of primarily Hispanic immigrants, bilingualism, multiculturalism, the devaluation of citizenship, and the "denationalization" of American elites.
September 11 brought a revival of American patriotism and a renewal of American identity. But already there are signs that this revival is fading, even though in the post-September 11 world, Americans face unprecedented challenges to our security.
Who Are We? shows the need for us to reassert the core values that make us Americans. Nothing less than our national identity is at stake.
Once again Samuel Huntington has written an important book that is certain to provoke a lively debate and to shape our national conversation about who we are.
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家园 美国拉美化，欧洲穆斯林化 很快的，2050年就到了。看白人会做出什么举动来扭转这个局势。
现在欧洲的右翼越来越有影响力了，但还没有能够上台执政。
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家园 看上表美国和平期最长就是南北内战结束后 可见那是真痛了，还有就是一战后那是经济大危机也痛了。可见让美国悠闲的时候别人就要倒霉了。
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家园 把美帝比东汉？东汉可是因为黄巾之乱玩完的 美国发生“黄巾之乱”的可能性，比天朝发生“房奴起义”的可能性低多了。
阁下研究美国历史的方法，令我想起了以前有人研究出来的世界杯冠军规律，按照这规律，今年的冠军应该是巴西。
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家园 乐见美帝分崩离析，井大收宝 谢谢：作者意外获得【通宝】一枚
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家园 这个观察点有意思 美国，在内部打完，标志是南北战争，然后大概三十年的工业化，走向帝国主义，开始往外部打，现在的关键是如何判断美国打外部打不动了，2008年的金融海啸？2010年的伊拉克撤军？对外用兵对于现在的美国来说是消耗国力，不再有正收益？
中国，1911-1949，内部打仗，整合。1949-1979，在工业化的同时，有不少对外作战，抗美援朝，对印边境战争，珍宝岛冲突，南海和南越的冲突，对越南自卫反击战。1979-2009，韬光养晦，没有对外作战，大致完成工业化。从目前海军亚丁湾护航，宣布南海为核心利益，钓鱼岛对日强硬交涉的一系列动作来看，中国下一步必然是向外，全球扩张，当然形式会和西方国家有很大的不同，这种扩张必然会更温和，更具互利性。
这里中国和美国或西方世界的大不同在于，西方世界的大帝国一旦对外打不动了，内部就趋于分裂，从罗马帝国，到苏联帝国，就没有特例，美国会是特例吗？而中国，如井大所说，自五胡乱华后，分裂很难持续50年。
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家园 真要被"胡人"占据了,外部环境也不会给他400年去同化