主题：胜利者不需要理解——记一次美国的朝鲜战争学术会议 -- 达雅
家园 所以我说是“体验”啊 一周前，我看这张照片也不觉得怎么样。但是现在就完全不一样了。
另外，Tilelli 将军，我本来以为也就是个少将准将，撑死是个中将，没想到是人家是 4 星上将，曾经的韩国太上皇，wiki有专门词条的
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家园 这两位都不是低级别将军，正宗的上将 那位韩国的金上将曾任韩军参谋长联席会议副主席，韩美联合司令部副总司令。
Jae Chang Kim
General (retired), Republic of Korea
General(R) Kim, Jae Chang was born in Andong Korea on 5 March 1940. He graduated from the Korean Military Academy in 1962 and was commissioned a Second Lieutenant in the Republic of Korea Army. He had served in the Korean Army for 32 years until he was retired from active service in April 1994. His major assignments include commanding general of 9th Infantry Division, Director of Operations in Joint Chiefs of Staff, Commanding General of 6th Corps, Assistant Minister for Policy, Vice Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Deputy Commander in Chief of Korea and United States Combined Forces Command. He graduated from College of Engineering, Seoul National University, majoring Electronics and got the degree of Bachelor of Engineering in 1966. He also graduated from the United States Naval Postgraduate School, majoring Operations Research and System Analysis, and got the degree of Master of Science in March 1976. After his retirement, he studied in the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in Boston, majoring International Relations, and got the degree of Master of Arts in Law and Diplomacy (MALD) on May 17, 1998 and the degree of Ph.D on November 2, 2002. The title of the dissertation for the Ph.D degree was Li or Shih: The Chinese Military Strategic Culture and Chinese Use of Force during the Cold War. From November 1999 to December 2001, he served as the Chairman, the Defense System Reform Committee, Ministry of National Defense. His awards include Order of National Security Merit (Gukson and Samil), Presidential Individual Citation, and number of foreign decorations, including the Legion of Merit from the United States of America.
家园 韩国太上皇好多啊。。。
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家园 宝这句 这就叫义无返顾。这就是保家卫国。这是志愿军高昂士气的来源。鸭绿江的那一边，就是我们的家我们的国呀！相比之下，莫斯科太小，而“Freedom is not free”则太轻佻。一百多年来备受凌辱的祖国，四万万刚刚得到喘息的父老，岂是“free or not free”可以承担？家园 可要是连自己人都不理解就麻烦了 提示:请不要频繁发帖，休息 60 秒后再发!家园 胜利者不需要理解 很霸气！
家园 伟大的抗美援朝战争和抗美援朝运动万岁！ 家园 我来自首…… 先向达雅先生致歉，兄台的大作有可能是兄弟率先在本茶庄转载滴，而且不光是转载，还在邮件中向有关朋友作了推荐。不过，兄弟转载时，全部注明了西西河——这个不敢忘，俺是绝对的铁粉！
乌有之乡的转载俺没瞅见，有可能还是从兄弟茶庄扒去，罪过在俺，罪过在俺！
家园 伟大的抗美援朝战争和抗美援朝运动万岁！ 朝战的意义，如何强调如何夸耀都不过分。
那是中华人民共和国建国第一战，而对手是世界上最强大的国家和她的仆从国；那是中国人真正站起来的一战，自1840年以降，中国人何曾拥有过这样的荣誉；那是一次影响持续到现在的一战，今日的和平是志愿军的鲜血铸造的；那是奠定人民信心的一战，在那一战之后，帝国主义就是纸老虎，赶英超美不是神话。
家园 集体主义和个人主义的区别罢了 两个国家都根据自己的意识形态提出合适的口号。如果天朝是个人主义的，那么保家卫国的口号可以对应成‘安全不是免费的’。当然美国那个口号本身就是个人主义的，没法对应过来的说。其实天朝传统上是宗族传统之下的个人主义，所谓一盘散沙是也；集体主义基本上是tg引入马列主义之后才在天朝站住脚跟的。
另外朝鲜战争的很多资料至今没有公开，研究仍然会继续深入。个人觉得这是个地缘政治问题，是红朝建国后的一次重大抉择，其得失可能会随着天朝今后地缘政治的不断变化而有所增减。
家园 什么呀 其实天朝传统上是宗族传统之下的个人主义，所谓一盘散沙是也知道什么叫差序格局么？不知道请百度。
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