主题：【原创】围绕脑科学而发生的若干玄想 -- 鸿乾

first of all, I like your this post so much, thanks. it is very helpful, making me keep coming back, again, the great global internet, needless to say further, then we have TG's GFW;

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now, before going into prof 张永德's "量子力学的心脏” (which carries a lot of 类比和联想 vs your 神经基础" as "智能的最基础的属性和特征"). let's get TG out of way.

ccthere.com used to be very diversified with a lot of excellent science (generally speaking, including things like AI) posts, not anymore, likely because of this Chinese blood fueled TG fans syndrome going on all over the place, as we all know, and in general Chinese wants to see a strong and prosperous china coming out of pacific, the so called china dream. Now, X has taken over, a historical juncture, people got excited. big sentiments improve, boy, sell them something(:).

I think I have written about TG's long term political and economic picture fairly "objectively" from physics point view in my recent post, yes, an individual's wild guess of something big such as TG, OMG;

still, TG will be here with us for long long time, more likely in working closely with MD together (surprised (:)?), and as I said, nobody knows when looking back in future, TG=a good or a bad thing to the Chinese nation, it's beyond any individual or organization's ability. so arguing that type of questions=waste of time, for most average individuals.

do you have time to waste?

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what we do know fairly well is GFW, and as I wrote quite bit about it, it is a physics reality, it is also a financial opportunity, such as various financial arbitrage in & out of GFW, because it is an information/logic gap, between US (and others) and china, and we all know, huge amount of money activities across GFW, all kinds of it, daily.

so, what is point? the point is if there is an 100 USD clean money on the ground "carelessly" dropped by GFW, are you going to pick it up and throw it into your own pocket?

how about those opportunities of $1k, $2k USD, etc?

basically, X redgen II: no poltical 體制改革 (TG actually get squeezed by MD politically, global & domestic, likely more to come), but pushing urbanization forward to keep money tree growing higher in china garden (to keep game going and to seduce uncle sam's wall street folks), big time;

with that, 體制套利 becomes global across GFW, for TG & MD senior insiders, for Chinese TG ass kissing BAT internet elite, they got their their way of making big money too, obviously, and for many other WS folks, play "估值套利,成交套利, IPO 套利 " etc, across GFW;

now, where all these 利 comes from? as I posted before, X dynasty macro trade fundamentally is a trade of short the 7億 Chinese farmers, would you, chairman X?(:)

just do it, baby(:).

as to 防空識別區 BS, just a fake political 烟幕弹, but a real military budget and all the beautiful goodies for PLA, can TG afford making PLA not happy at all?

in terms of physics, you would need a huge amount of energy to change all these macroscopic paths of US TG system, where and how to get that kind of energy?

if you don't have enough energy (位能= twice of 動能 for a sytem, normally)to change it, then respect 惯性, and I would think, that as smart as TG is, TG would have figured these thing all out already: uncle sam's garden, global, well diversified, stable, vs TGchina: 有序参量=1, actually highly unstable, subject to any local 量子事件 induced 相變 at system level, QFT model can't really produce numbers, we are in this social science across GR time space. BUT QFT does produce tons of uncertainties, for TG at the top of the curve, those many of uncertainties are all pointing downward, is that scary?

But, obviously, uncle sam's national team of all kinds of brains are working on it, putting a little fire here and there, once a while, making X redgen II hard to sleep well at night because of those damned but never go away bad dream of 量子事件, etc.

so, what to do? make money in china garden, and use branches off china money tree to stick into the ass of uncle sam(:).

uncle sam: well, that is a little bit of pain & bloody, in terms of white trash unemployment, but short term, it may not be a bad deal, our boys got big money from china.

money never smells, and donate some to uncle sam political elite, did US supreme court just ok that?

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"量子力学的心脏”

first of all, this is not easy stuff, how difficult and how beautiful 量子力学 is, you can only know after you have learned it, worked at least on some real life 量子力学 apps, and still, learning and understanding it is a forever journey.

now, some rough analogies:

带A-B效应的Young氏双缝实验

经典力学中，Maxwell方程和Lorentz力公式都是用场强 ( 场强 is always local, or generally speaking, classical physics law are all local, 智能 obviously is not local, TG is definitely not local(:), kind of why TG is super smart(:)) 表达的。

actually, SR itself is still local or 经典, QFT kind of global, SR version of 量子力学, all because of Dirac's famous equation.

(extra "juice": in that sense, TG is very smart, now, how about uncle sam? the two smartest person in the world, are they going to kill each other (small probability, TG work hard to keep it that way, how? get uncle sam's businessmen coming into TG's china garden, treat them well, for example) or working together in some form?)

this corresponds to

"现在的计算机中，你存一个图像就是一个图像，你取出来，还是那个图像，非常精确，如果有所误差，你就根本取不出来。而且这个图像的记忆和对这个图像的理解一点关系都没有，记忆是记忆，理解是理解，记忆是存储体中的，理解是存储外面的软件的运行的结果。因此，这个计算技术体系中，不可能产生类别和联系，即使有，也不是自然产生的，而是外部刻意追求而加进去的。扩大了讲，就是说，基本上没有可能产生智能"

I posted that semicomductor is still a macroscopic (kind of 经典物理) material & energy transfer done by classicl 電子, with a 量子化的 声子 field and interactions of 电子声子 working in the background, kind of, so semiconductor as we know today, cannot give us a 量子 computer. for a 量子 computer, we need to have 电子 work in "qm wave" form, not the classical 电子 as it is working now in semiconductor, producing all kinds of 电子 computer.

once 电子 start working in some kind of "qm wave" form in room temperature, etc, it will have quite bit of AI capability to pop out.etc. again, this is because a 电子 working as "qm wave" can be global, obtaining some kind of organization power, the way TG does

(extra juice: TG will never share power with any other Chinese elite, whatsoever whomsoever, fxxk u, if u dare to dream that way, baby, and pls respect uncle TG's privacy(:))

before that, as you said very well:

"这位朋友说的：底层应用字典编码倾向的表层反映，其实就是说如何分解信息等（他称为字典编码）。现在的DNN也不是没有这个分解信息。他们的分解基本上是解很大的不定线性方程组，但是加上极值限制。这种分解，有很强的数学指导，因此容易为大家接受，分解也就是线性组合，理解起来容易。但是，可以明确讲，我的观点是，这样的数学，明显不是脑中的活动，差得很远，恐怕因此效果就差了"

we all know without x-ray, there would be no DNA, period.

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without going into specifics, one way to imagine the "AI" 电子:

"全部宏观电磁实验表明，只有规范变换不变的场强才有物理意义。量子力学中，电磁场下Schrdinger方程虽然是用电磁势表达的，但由于方程具有定域规范变换不变性，因此人们一直认为，如同经典力学一样，量子力学中也只有电磁场场强才具有可观测的物理效应，电磁势不具有直接可观测的物理效应。"

ok, focus on the following:

blabla, "这个相因子存在表明，即使粒子路径限制在磁场强度为零的区域，粒子不受定域的动力学作用，但电磁势(沿粒子路径的路径相关积分)仍会影响到粒子的位相"

磁场强度为零, game over, according classical 电磁场 physics, kind of, roughly speaking.

but in this "AB效应" thing, somekind of global 电磁势(沿粒子路径的路径相关积分)can still keep the game going, even local 磁场强度为零;

needless to say, if "AB效应" (already observed in lab long time ago, first in japan?) can work its way into computer, then we could have all kinds of potential apps coming out.

of course, "AB效应", 規範場, etc, physics got a long way to go in that direction, in terms of theories, tons of challenges, such as 拓扑, bordering into Riemann geometry /GR area, etc. a very promising field, waiting for smart folks to dig gold out of it.

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so, what is fxxking points? where to get my $1k USD?

as I wrote zillions time before, it is all about modeling, about using right logical model in analyzing and hopefully solving real time problems, regardless of what you actually do, do you have to wait until QM computer and GOOG AI robots coming out on sale at discount, with a many Chinese 山寨機 all over the 3rd world?(:)

does that make sense?

unless, you are very close to TG top tier elite, then life is beautiful for many years to come, just enjoy it while still alive, why fxxking working at all(:)?

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但是，1959年Aharonov和Bohm提出, 在量子力学中，在某些电磁过程中，具有局域性质(因为是关于空间坐标的微商)的电磁场场强不能有效地描述带电粒子的量子行为，电磁势有直接可观测的物理效应。下面只对磁A-B效应作一简明分析。电磁AB效应的推广和进一步讨论详见文献张永德.量子力学.北京: 科学出版社，2010,第9章..

在缝屏后面两缝之间放置一个细螺线管。通电后管内场强≠0;但管外场强=0，矢势场强≠0。这个细螺线管产生一细束磁弦。下面的理论分析表明,相对于没通电的情况来说，通电后，接收屏上干涉花样在包络(干涉条纹极的轮廓线)不变的情况下所有极值位置都发生了移动。电流改变时，峰值位置也跟随改变；电流反向，峰值位置也反向移动。下面对此作一简单分析。

Young氏双缝实验能够做成功，必定要求两缝处电子波函数的初始位相差是固定的。不失一般性，假设初始位相差为零，将两缝合并成为A点，简化成图1.6(b)。通电之前，p22μφ0(r)=Eφ0(r), φ0(rt)=φ0(r)e-iEt/c点的合振幅为f(0)c=f(0)1(c)+f(0)2(c)。通电之后p→p-ecA。于是12μp-ecA2φ(r)=Eφ(r)

φ(r,t)=φ(r)e-iEt/直接验算即知，此方程的解为φ(r)=ei ec∫rAA(r′)·dr′φ0(r)注意，这里的相因子在B≠0的区域与路径有关(不仅与两端点有关)，因而是不可积的；只在B=0的区域与路径无关(这正说明，磁场毕竟是一种物理的实在，不能通过数学变换将其完全转化为纯粹相因子).

图 1.6

这个相因子存在表明，即使粒子路径限制在磁场强度为零的区域，粒子不受定域的动力学作用，但电磁势(沿粒子路径的路径相关积分)仍会影响到粒子的位相。

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原创】近代自然科学禀性探讨（一） [ witten1 ] 于:2013-08-06 13:05:05 主题帖

引子：这是我国内的导师所写的一篇文章，会在他所著的《量子力学：菜根谭（第二版）》里出现。这里经过他授权同意，让我代发在网上以引起讨论。在接下来两三个月中我会陆陆续续放完全文。此文的版权归原作者所有，任何转载请注明原作者。

一，近代自然科学的基本特征

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