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首先向11兄致歉, 先前小僧用词确有不严谨之处, 我已将"灵魂"改正为"意识".

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2041页 左下角起:

During the pilot phase in one of the hospitals, a

coronary-care-unit nurse reported a veridical out-ofbody

experience of a resuscitated patient:

“During a night shift an ambulance brings in a 44-

year-old cyanotic, comatose man into the coronary care

unit. He had been found about an hour before in a

meadow by passers-by. After admission, he receives

artificial respiration without intubation, while heart

massage and defibrillation are also applied. When we

want to intubate the patient, he turns out to have

dentures in his mouth. I remove these upper dentures

and put them onto the ‘crash car’. Meanwhile, we

continue extensive CPR. After about an hour and a half

the patient has sufficient heart rhythm and blood

pressure, but he is still ventilated and intubated, and he

is still comatose. He is transferred to the intensive care

unit to continue the necessary artificial respiration. Only

after more than a week do I meet again with the patient,

who is by now back on the cardiac ward. I distribute his

medication. The moment he sees me he says: ‘Oh, that

nurse knows where my dentures are’. I am very

surprised. Then he elucidates: ‘Yes, you were there

when I was brought into hospital and you took my

dentures out of my mouth and put them onto that car, it

had all these bottles on it and there was this sliding

drawer underneath and there you put my teeth.’ I was especially amazed because I remembered this happening while the man was in deep coma and in the process of CPR. When I asked further, it appeared the man had seen himself lying in bed, that he had perceived from above how nurses and doctors had been busy with CPR. He was also able to describe correctly and in detail the small room in which he had been resuscitated as well as the appearance of those present like myself. At the time that he observed the situation he had been very much afraid that we would stop CPR and that he would die. And it is true that we had been very negative about the patient’s prognosis due to his very poor medical

condition when admitted. The patient tells me that he

desperately and unsuccessfully tried to make it clear to

us that he was still alive and that we should continue

CPR. He is deeply impressed by his experience and says

he is no longer afraid of death. 4 weeks later he left

hospital as a healthy man.”

2043页左栏:

Discussion

Our results show that medical factors cannot account for occurrence of NDE; although all patients had been clinically dead, most did not have NDE. Furthermore, seriousness of the crisis was not related to occurrence or depth of the experience. If purely physiological factors resulting from cerebral anoxia caused NDE, most of our patients should have had this experience. Patients’medication was also unrelated to frequency of NDE. Psychological factors are unlikely to be important as fear was not associated with NDE.

2044页左栏:

Several theories have been proposed to explain NDE.

We did not show that psychological, neurophysiological,

or physiological factors caused these experiences after

cardiac arrest. Sabom22 mentions a young American

woman who had complications during brain surgery for

a cerebral aneurysm. The EEG of her cortex and

brainstem had become totally flat. After the operation, which was eventually successful, this patient proved to have had a very deep NDE, including an out-of-body experience, with subsequently verified observations during the period of the flat EEG.

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Thus, induced experiences are not identical to NDE,...

With lack of evidence for any other theories for NDE,

the thus far assumed, but never proven, concept that

consciousness and memories are localised in the brain

should be discussed. How could a clear consciousness

outside one’s body be experienced at the moment that

the brain no longer functions during a period of clinical

death with flat EEG?22 Also, in cardiac arrest the EEG

usually becomes flat in most cases within about 10 s

from onset of syncope.29,30 Furthermore, blind people

have described veridical perception during out-of-body

experiences at the time of this experience.31 NDE pushes

at the limits of medical ideas about the range of human

consciousness and the mind-brain relation.

此文虽然没有explicitly提出意识可以和肉身分离的假说, 但几乎排除了别的解释, thus implying 意识可能可以和肉身分离. 除非您能提出更合理的解释.

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