主题：【原创】即使没有文革,中国经济也不会提前进入第二世界 -- 葡萄

yes, the first self-organized association in America is the Mayflower Pact among English immigrants.

Actually, French and Spanish immigrants came earlier than Englishmen to the North America. But both of them lived under the dictatorship of the Roman Catholic church or the authority of their kings. Their offsprings both failed to establish solid governments in their colonies, including Mexico, Nouvelle France and California.

I always admire your smartness in figuring out all the key lessons. I did not see that until I immigrated to States.