主题：【讨论】美国，你做错了什么？ -- 东方射日

I am central among my american colleagues... A big hat from you, too heavy for me.

因为感觉您对民主自由的认识很深入，是很纯正的西方观点

民主自由的认识很深入--there are many mistranslation in Chinese literature. 民主=Republic, not everyone must have one vote. 自由=civil liberty/freedom--means rights that can not be taken by the government.

民主自由--that's for domestic voters/citizens, not for foreigners. Therefore, one can practise 民主自由 for its citizens, while practise imperialism over foreign nations. That's in the history of Athens, Rome, Carthage, Britain, US...

we all learn from each other. I taught my self US political science by reading through US textbooks/history. So I avoid the poisoning of Chinese media many years ago(actually I did not realize that until that web debate). I was not naive as to what America is.

I was just puzzled why people trust Chinese articles on US history without double checking English sources--so easy in today's world.

在您的文字中感觉您认为很多人被洗脑了。

--Do not use the term brain-washing. I will prefer to say: people were blocked by language barrier, thus could not access alternative source of info. That's why I say "language is POWER!". Look at the Christian Reformation. If Luther did not translate Latin bible into easily understood German, Germans would still live under the terror of Catholic church today. The same case applies to the English/Dutch. In 17th Europe, English=language of liberation and enlightment.

不同思想交流的作用就是让自己大脑中的认识保持活力，而不是僵化不变。我想河里的很多人，尤其是不那么坚定的中间派，都对自己认识改变的可能性持开放的态度。希望您也是这样。其实不同认识交锋中的胜负无关紧要，能让读文的人有所启迪才是论坛存在的价值。

--Fully agree. I am not a stubborn man. The pity is that some posters live in the world surrounded only by chinese media and could not access alternative info.

Actually in the English media, the French history/politics were also reported in a biased way. That's why I sometimes rely on French websites for info to de-wash the English brainwashing. That's a lesson I learned over time.