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家园 给陈郢客河友的一些小建议

对您关注是从<投之以肺腑,报之以肺腑——回北宸mm书>开始的,您的文字功底给我留下了非常非常深刻的印象,让我很是脸红的是,您文中还有关于我以前所写一个贴子的评论,让我一直不敢忘记那个对自己的承诺。

最近一直在读您写的<朝鲜战争:东北亚三国演义>,感觉观点可亲,文笔也是一如既往的犀利,既提神,又解气,虽然是号称演义,但是读来颇有檄文的感觉,力道相信足以让一些人收敛了。

对您在各大国谋略方面的阐述,我由于对这些方面不了解,没有发言权,只是在我略知的细节上,倒是想给您提个醒。

近来重读李奇微的<朝鲜战争>,偶然发现86版的原文与您引用的内容有些差别,具体的讲,就是您所用引用的文字较原文有所缺失,对比网上可以找到的中译本后,我觉得似乎是译文的问题。

相信您的文章会在很短的时间里流传起来,所以建议您重新核对原文,以减少将来一些不必要的误会。

现将原文列出:

原文:P58

The action of the Chinese in freeing the prisoners was in happy contrast to the treatment – often a bullet in the back of the head – prisoners had received from the North Koreans. At one point the Chinese actually set the severely wounded men on the litters along the road, then draw back and held their fire while our medics in trucks came to retrieve the injured men. Moves of this sort by the Chinese in fact were prompted by the Chinese ignorance of Western life, ignorance rooted in their controlled upbringing. For the Chinese captors had sent the captured soldiers back to our lines after adjuring each to “tell his comrades” of humane treatment he had received and to urge them all to “turn their guns against the officers” and thus free themselves from the opposition the Chinese had been taught to believe all the victims of capitalism suffered. Perhaps they confidently expected to see whole divisions of our troops responding to this invitation to flee the capitalism Hell and come sample the freedom of the Red Paradise.

The Chinese, we were to learn, was tough and vicious fighter who often attacked without regard for casualties. But he was a more civilized foe in some respects than we found the NKPA to be. In many instances he shared what little food he had with his prisoners and treat them with kindness, very likely to impress him with how much better he would lively to impress him with how much better he would live under Communism. When we retook Seoul we found he had not wantonly destroyed building materials we had brought in to repair the bombed city, but in his advance from Yongdong-po to Suwon he had systematically put the torch to houses in the villages.

所以从全文来看,您引用李奇微的话也许于您的主题不符。

其实,李奇微这个人是很有特点的,从他的外号"Old Iron Tits"就可以看出。有人讲他和我们的彭总很象,我个人认为,他们的军事天分可能相近,但是政治素养却不在一个层次上。

从李奇微的自传里,您可以看出作为一个美国老派军人的信仰和传统,尤其是他对军不干政和军队将领必须服从命令的阐述,相信是完全发自内心的。这也是美国军队战后迅速平静的退出政治舞台的思想基础,相信也是那个时代很多高级将领的共同信仰。

以麦帅为例,他的解职在国内一般被认为是军事失败所导致(其实51年初他解职之前,美军在前线已经很有起色),但是美国历史界和军界对此的评价是政治不正确和越权所致,也就是所说的"坏了规矩"。这也从另外一个侧面证明了这种理想的坚实程度。至于麦回国后掀起的"真理标准大讨论",其对美国的影响恐怕比朝鲜战争本身要大。

凶狠程度方面,彭和李奇微也有所不同。个人的感觉,李奇微是一个有着坚定的政治信仰,并且从不忌讳施展雷霆手段的老鬼子。他可以命令对平民开枪,以确保自己的部队顺利撤退;同时,在公众面前也从来不回避战争的残酷,比如他就曾直接把军事行动命名为"杀手",还有一段精彩的解释:P111

But even now I am not convinced that the country should not be told that war means killing. I am by nature opposed to any effort to "sell" war to people as an only mildly unpleasant business that requires very little in the way of blood.

按李奇微一贯的作战方针,既不在乎地域上的得失,以最大限度的消灭志愿军有生力量为首要目标。要不是军事服从政治,以他的手段,在朝鲜半岛上大范围的来来回回几次,志愿军的损失很可能还要大。

而坦率的讲,志愿军的指挥者非常明白这一点,但是同样是军事服从政治,所以也不得不付出很大的牺牲来换取政治优势。

双方其实都是捆着手脚在打,有点象拳击比赛。

所有这些其实都指向一个问题,就是韩战中双方政治搏翌对军事较量的影响,以我个人的观点,目前网上还没有将这些写的比较通俗的作品。不知道陈郢客河友有兴趣没有,其实这方面还是很有得可写的。

最后就是提醒您一下志愿军的阵亡数字,在您的贴子里,有两个总阵亡数字,

一个是

志愿军共牺牲15.3万人(阵亡、因伤死亡、其他原因死亡及失踪)

一个是

28个省、自治区、直辖市,共牺牲171687人。

这是一个一直以来比较头疼的问题,数字出处不止一个,前后也不太对应,不知您是否有一个权威的版本。

啰嗦了这么多,希望您没有厌烦。

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