主题：【原创】温家宝讲述的天下大势 -- 同人于野

Posted 27/02/07 at 9:52 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Ragged Mouths from Montreal, Canada writes: It's unfortunate, but we are the ones to blame (in part) for this 'economy first, democracy second' rhetoric. if we had facilitated Russia's entrance into democratic capitalism, rather than just putting up fast food chains, and if Russia was wealthier right now, more countries would be willing to try 'democracy first, economy second'. Unfortunately the USSR is a good example of why China is, in this case, somewhat correct, even if the 'reasoning' employed here is, in many respects, a mask for evil.

That said, I agree with the above poster that it is downright stupid to tell the emerging middle-classes that they must wait a century for a taste of power.

Posted 27/02/07 at 9:55 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

jen andersen from vancouver, Canada writes: When a Chinese says 'a hundred years' - he means it's going to take a long time. But time is relative to an individual, it could actually mean 50 years or even 25 years. For example, when a Chinese says that he'd wish a person to 'live 10,000 years', that means he'd wish the person to live a long time and not to physically live 10,000 years. Anti-Sinoism derives from ignorance. We must understand the Chinese more and vice versa in order to take away the fear of each other. It scares me when I go to Richmond and see 10,000 Chinese.

Posted 27/02/07 at 9:56 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

L Tang from Toronto, Canada writes: Definitely misleading and losing context...

If you can read Chinese, here is the official publishing:

http://politics.people.com.cn/GB/1024/5418093.html

The real meaning is : we will struggle for the Democratic system to several descents because of the complexity of our system...

I got lost by this G&M title, so I checked the original one, then...

Posted 27/02/07 at 9:56 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

thomas ip from Shenzhen, Canada writes: dman T: Have you any idea who engineered Tiannamen Square?

All the student leaders who were behind the revoult are now living in US and Europe.

Posted 27/02/07 at 9:58 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

dman T from Toronto, Canada writes: The people in Tiananmen square protesting were intellecutals and liberals...... liberals were killed for protesting by a thug leadership.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:00 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Beatriz Perez-Sanchez from Toronto, Canada writes: Joseph Sis, you seem to be forgetting about a few other important aspects of life in China - millions of political prisoners, the widespread use of torture and capital punishment, selling prisoners' organs on the world market (a process in which prisoners are kept barely alive until the transaction is completed), female infanticide.... My list is by no means complete. The government of China is guilty of crimes on the same scale as those committed by Hitler and Stalin. If it were not for the fact that China is such a lucrative market for the West (not to mention home to so many WalMart sweatshops) and that it has both a large population and military, the country's leaders would have been dragged off to The Hague long ago. Unfortuately, the pursuit of profit has always trumped human rights. In the case of China, it will continue to do so unless there is a real revolution in the country.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:00 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Michael Sharp from Daffodil City, Canada writes: When they say 100 years, I'm thinking they know it will be a whole lot sooner.

Otherwise, why say it?

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:03 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

L Tang from Toronto, Canada writes: Use your heads, Yours!

Do you think it's realistic that a gang (no matter how many in them) can dictated one and half billion people who can reached any information from outside world by internet, newspapers, books, magazines,letters, or technical menus from IBM or Microsoft, or at least by rumors?

And you also think this gang is idiots to be a super power in a complex scocial system of 1.5 BILLION guys?! Freak out me.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:07 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

thomas ip from Shenzhen, Canada writes: dman T: Do you know old these 'intellectuals....liberals' are?

They are not even old enough to vote.

They only know that the greenbacks are behind them and will be rewarded with a greencard.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:10 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Ramesh Fernando from Canada writes: Wen doesn't realize when democracy will happen. It's not if Wen but when and no will know who the hell Hu was just like Eric Honecker in East Germany. It's inevitable, the Kumotiang nationalists in Taiwan thought they could rule for hundreds of years but they had to give in to democracy. With all the corruption of the Communist party, where taxes are being forced on the peasants unfairly to pay for corrupt party officials, where development is only in the cities without thinking about the countryside. Where it's an enviromental distaster, smog, acid rain, water table going haywire, soil erosion. Where State owned enterprises are being loaned all the money from banks at low interest after paying even lower interest, and all the SOEs are going to collpase. It's a domino effect. Overbuilding in Shanghai, millions of properties going without tenants. Falung Gong or someone else wil force democracy. Mark my words, it will be the peasants who will force the democracy, actually falung gong may not be part of it since it's more middle class folks who are into that. Just like the peasants supported Mao against the Chian-Kai-Shek and the nationalists, democracy will come very soon. To Joseph Sis, I assume North Korea is the most beautiful country in the world for you.

These Beijing dictator thugs are finished very soon. Just like Castro Kim and Vietnamese junta oh yeah and the burmese junta they will all go down in history as loosers to democracy.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:11 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

dman T from Toronto, Canada writes: Thomas ip - so you think its ok to butcher protesters? you are a member of the communist party and hate students from your own country. students were protesting becuase of the repressive regime you defend.

were you smiling when tanks ran over these people?

you're a clueless idiot

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:12 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Michael Palmer from Waterloo, Canada writes: 100 years - quite short actually, if you put it into context. Hitler declared his Third Reich was going to last for 1000 years...